Fox Hunting

[Digby]

iphonedyou said:

A Broadway show? Eh?

Which show?

'The bloodlust of the bullstting tossers' I think it was called.

[Digby]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

Therin lies the rub doesn't it. The bulk of the sweeping statements made all over this thread are on the perception that this is the norm.

Simple Question :
Do you believe this is a typical Hunt ?

Do you believe a hunt is required?

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Paddy_N_Murphy said:

"required" - I am unsure.

However, your avoiding the question does not alter the curiosity I have.

So - again. Simple Question :
Do you believe this is a typical Hunt ?

I couldn't care less if it was or not. Many examples of illegal hunts are 'out there'. Many examples of legal hunts are out there.
My point was, to some, it's such an entertaining event, they don't care even if it is banned.

Do you condone such actions?

Shall we talk about the other points I raised, too?

[Digby]

A57 HSV said:

I've got three sheds, but I want a bath not a pee.

This seems rather apt:

Edited by A57 HSV on Wednesday 24th May 23:44

Show her standing over dogs, watching an exhausted fox she helped catch, get torn to pieces whilst wearing the nurses uniform.

Guess what the answer would be for many, then.

[Digby]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

what grinds my gears is intentional misinformation

So you must also want to cover all the excuses used for hunting and then discuss whether they are BS or not?

I'm up for that.

Where do you want to start?

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

"Interesting that when challenged...."

What would you like to know?

Are you talking of questions relating to dress? The point which many keep asking me about as a diversionary tactic because they don't want to talk about other points raised?

I think they look and act like tts. How much more clear can I be?

The best way to apparently keep fox numbers down (not that anyone knows if we need to apparently) is to stage such an event and dress up?

You really beileve that?

You could wear your finest Savile Row suit and I would still suggest you look like a tt and that you were doing something ttish.

So, do you want to discuss other points?

[Digby]

johnxjsc1985 said:

having to go into a Chicken Run and clean up after a Fox has just destroyed them for fun not for food isn't much fun.

A common misconception "They kill for fun". Think about that for a moment..
They are popping out for a bit of fun..

The truth is, if undisturbed, they will kill as much as they can with a view to coming back to collect and store the rest of their kills.
They are used to prey fleeing in the wild, so to have everything on a plate as it were is a golden opportunity.

They usually take away a single kill and come back. Of course, they then run the risk of being shot in the face by those not able to protect chickens when they do.

Paddy_N_Murphys gears should be seriously grinding now!!

Vermin? Nope..
Kill for fun? Nope..

[anonymous-user]

Digby said:

A common misconception "They kill for fun". Think about that for a moment..
They are popping out for a bit of fun..

The truth is, if undisturbed, they will kill as much as they can with a view to coming back to collect and store the rest of their kills.
They are used to prey fleeing in the wild, so to have everything on a plate as it were is a golden opportunity.

They usually take away a single kill and come back. Of course, they then run the risk of being shot in the face by those not able to protect chickens when they do.

Paddy_N_Murphys gears should be seriously grinding now!!

Vermin? Nope..
Kill for fun? Nope..

I agree with your analysis of how they kill and I also agree that hunting foxes with hounds is unnecessary, being sport rather than population control

However if we accept the dictionary definition of vermin as

Wild animals which are believed to be harmful to crops, farm animals, or game, or which carry disease, e.g. rodents.

Then as foxes can undoubtedly be harmful to farm animals then it is fair to call them vermin.

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desolate said:

Then as foxes can undoubtedly be harmful to farm animals then it is fair to call them vermin.

They could be, if you are unsure of how to protect farm animals.

The truth is, almost all of the excuses used here for those who see no problem with hunting will have been used by all those who lost their court cases due to hunting.

In other words, it's almost always complete tosh.

I am curious to know why, when I post factual links, I am told it's misinformation, yet completely made up suggestions are left unchallenged?

[LDN]

PaddyMurphy; I've touched a nerve haven't I... you're questioning yourself now and looking a right tit in the process.

As you were.

[anonymous-user]

Digby said:

They could be, if you are unsure of how to protect farm animals.

The truth is, almost all of the excuses used here for those who see no problem with hunting will have been used by all those who lost their court cases due to hunting.

In other words, it's almost always complete tosh.

I am curious to know why, when I post factual links, I am told it's misinformation, yet completely made up suggestions are left unchallenged?

I am not questioning your position on hunting with hounds.
I am questioning your position on other methods of killing foxes.

Since getting Alpacas we haven't had an issue with foxes, but prior to that they were a serious nuisance.

I can understand that someone would take a position that no animal should be killed for the convenience of humans - is that what you are saying?

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desolate said:

Since getting Alpacas we haven't had an issue with foxes, but prior to that they were a serious nuisance.

And there you have it. A better solution than face shooting.

[Stickyfinger]

READ the thread for the answers as they have been given.

dhead Listen....FACE=INTO BRAIN=Good Shot=No Pain. GOT IT YET ?

And now we all have Alpacas ? ....you really are a desperate fool

Edited by Stickyfinger on Thursday 25th May 18:16

[Digby]

Stickyfinger said:

READ the thread for the answers as they have been given.

dhead Listen....FACE=INTO BRAIN=Good Shot=No Pain. GOT IT YET ?

And now we all have Alpacas ? ....you really are a desperate fool

Edited by Stickyfinger on Thursday 25th May 18:16

You're pretty sexy when you get angry. x

I thought you said you were going to ignore me, anyway?

Is it the Hai Karate?! And she told me to bin it. Pah!

[anonymous-user]

Digby said:

desolate said:

Since getting Alpacas we haven't had an issue with foxes, but prior to that they were a serious nuisance.

And there you have it. A better solution than face shooting.

I am not sure it's a credible solution but I am sure that death by Alpaca is worse than death by bullet in face.

[Digby]

[anonymous-user]

Digby said:

Picture

Despite knowing who is in the picture, I don't understand the reference.

Are you against the killing of all animals and/or the killing of animals for meat and/or the killing of animals for sport and/or the exploitation of animals for any of their "product"?

[Stickyfinger]

desolate said:

Digby said:

Picture

Despite knowing who is in the picture, I don't understand the reference.

Are you against the killing of all animals and/or the killing of animals for meat and/or the killing of animals for sport and/or the exploitation of animals for any of their "product" or against the polluting effects of old turbo Volvo's on the environment and animals/babies/pregnant mothers ?

EDIT to add a couple of things

[Digby]

I'm against people making crap up to justify gun fetishes, breaking the law (or not) to tear animals to pieces with more crap excuses and creating such environments when there are not enough things to kill.

I think they call it being a nice person.

Maybe start asking those who blow animals faces off at invited functions and enjoy watching dogs tear exhausted animals to pieces what their thoughts are?

[anonymous-user]

Digby said:

I'm against people making crap up to justify gun fetishes, breaking the law (or not) to tear animals to pieces with more crap excuses and creating such environments when there are not enough things to kill.

I think they call it being a nice person.

Maybe start asking those who blow animals faces off at invited functions and enjoy watching dogs tear exhausted animals to pieces what their thoughts are?

Ok
So against hunting with hounds
Against shooting for sport
Ok with legitimate shooting/killing for pest/vermin control

Ok with Kentucky fried chicken and leather shoes.

Position understood finally.

I still don't get the Lenny McLean reference.

[Digby]

desolate said:

Position understood finally.

Do you intened to find out the position of those who blow animals faces off at invited functions and enjoy watching dogs tear exhausted animals to pieces?

EDIT to add a couple of things

..based mostly on lies and bloodlust.

Edited by Digby on Thursday 25th May 19:37