UKIP - The Future - Volume 4
Discussion
AmitG said:
alfie2244 said:
Farage makes another comeback? 
Apparently he is going to decide in the next 7 days whether to come back and lead the party.yesterdays man who has had his reason to exist in the public eye eclipsed by the big political beasts stealing his thunder only to end up drunk and alone muttering on a park bench while the children call him names and tease him.
alfie2244 said:
Like him or loathe him he has had more influence on British politics than anyone else in the last few years. Wonder how much influence Ms Perkins has had on the British comedy scene over the same period?
Maybe an indication of what is wrong with Politics when people use Sue Perkins as a mouthpiece Sue f
kin Perkins dear God.johnxjsc1985 said:
Maybe an indication of what is wrong with Politics when people use Sue Perkins as a mouthpiece Sue fkin Perkins dear God.
Maybe we should use you then? How would you weight the comparative importance? Or put it another way, she expressed a view, it's as valid as anyone else's, get over it.kin Perkins dear God.mjb1 said:
I just had to look back 6 pages to find this thread, most unusual for PH! UKIP seem to be dead in the water in this election campaign. They don't seem to have fielded anywhere near as many candidates as the last election. Maybe they didn't have time to organise themselves, or maybe they're fairly happy with May's noises on Brexit so far, and feel it's better to keep a relatively low profile so as not to steal votes from the conservatives? May's position on pushing right has trampled on their toes a bit, and what's left of UKIP seem to be making rather far right noises.
I get the impression that May think's she'll hoover up all the moderate kipper votes, and get return an even larger majority. However, I think there are a huge swathe of previous UKIP voters (particularly in the Labour heartlands up North), who won't vote Tory. They are Labour voters who were prepared to vote UKIP to voice their views on independence, but now that's been decided they won't vote that way again (even if there is a UKIP candidate), and they'll never vote Conservative on principal. So back to Labour it is for them. If the Lib Dems could reinvent themselves as a centre party, right of Corbyn's Labour (not hard to do), they could prosper, but too late for this election.
As I predicted, the previous GE's UKIP voters didn't all turn conservative. A great many of them went straight back to labour. Lets face it UKIP was always branded as a single issue party. They forced the referendum (it would never have been on the table without their influence), and it even got the result that they wanted. Now they are dead in the water, simply irrelevant (apart from perhaps the argument that they still have a job to keep the pressure on govt to get the 'right' brexit deal) to where politics is at today. The only people still clinging to UKIP are the hard right party members that were giving it a bad name in the first place.I get the impression that May think's she'll hoover up all the moderate kipper votes, and get return an even larger majority. However, I think there are a huge swathe of previous UKIP voters (particularly in the Labour heartlands up North), who won't vote Tory. They are Labour voters who were prepared to vote UKIP to voice their views on independence, but now that's been decided they won't vote that way again (even if there is a UKIP candidate), and they'll never vote Conservative on principal. So back to Labour it is for them. If the Lib Dems could reinvent themselves as a centre party, right of Corbyn's Labour (not hard to do), they could prosper, but too late for this election.
I think Farage knows this, and whilst he hates to see his 'baby' failing, he also knows it's the end of the road for the party really. Trying to drag them beyond being a single issue party and back to relevance would be more difficult than starting afresh.
Eddie Strohacker said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
Maybe an indication of what is wrong with Politics when people use Sue Perkins as a mouthpiece Sue fkin Perkins dear God.
Maybe we should use you then? How would you weight the comparative importance? Or put it another way, she expressed a view, it's as valid as anyone else's, get over it.kin Perkins dear God.Without Farage there'd be no ukip and without ukip Cameron would never of had the referendum .
egor110 said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
Maybe an indication of what is wrong with Politics when people use Sue Perkins as a mouthpiece Sue fkin Perkins dear God.
Maybe we should use you then? How would you weight the comparative importance? Or put it another way, she expressed a view, it's as valid as anyone else's, get over it.kin Perkins dear God.Without Farage there'd be no ukip and without ukip Cameron would never of had the referendum .
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