UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

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dandarez

13,323 posts

285 months

Saturday 10th June 2017
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egor110 said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
Maybe an indication of what is wrong with Politics when people use Sue Perkins as a mouthpiece Sue fkin Perkins dear God.
Maybe we should use you then? How would you weight the comparative importance? Or put it another way, she expressed a view, it's as valid as anyone else's, get over it.
Like it or loathe it Farage forced thru the brexit vote.

Without Farage there'd be no ukip and without ukip Cameron would never of had the referendum .
I'd go one further.
If there had never been Farage and Ukip, CallMeDave would still be PM and he would still be there for another 3 years!

As for Sue Perkins, oh dear, an absolute and utter nobody!
Comedian?
Well, that's not far off as it is too hilarious to even contemplate.

A 'comedian' and 'host' (both terms used in the absolutely lightest way possible, or imagineable) who thinks it was 'funny' to stand up and say:

'Give me a 7 second delay and I will use it, you blistering faced fking trumpets.'

Yeah, some comedian!

Bet it makes a few 'real' and 'genuine' comedians of the past turn in their graves.

As for her expressing a view, of course. No problem with that.

But to take notice of it or her? Jesus! rolleyes

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

88 months

Saturday 10th June 2017
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dandarez said:
If there had never been Farage and Ukip, CallMeDave would still be PM and he would still be there for another 3 years!

As for Sue Perkins, oh dear, an absolute and utter nobody!
Comedian? :
Imagine that, a world in which the UK hadn't been plunged into chaos twice in twelve months & faced an era defining fork in the road led by a fatally weakened government propped up by a bunch quasi religious homophobic ex paramilitary fanatics. But yeah, lesbian comedian though.

State of this.

rodericb

6,823 posts

128 months

Saturday 10th June 2017
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johnxjsc1985 said:
alfie2244 said:
Like him or loathe him he has had more influence on British politics than anyone else in the last few years. Wonder how much influence Ms Perkins has had on the British comedy scene over the same period?
Maybe an indication of what is wrong with Politics when people use Sue Perkins as a mouthpiece Sue fkin Perkins dear God.
More that Twitter and other social media outlets allow any persons opinion to get broadcast far and wide and be subsequently picked up and used by any other person trying to prove some point.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Eddie Strohacker said:
dandarez said:
If there had never been Farage and Ukip, CallMeDave would still be PM and he would still be there for another 3 years!

As for Sue Perkins, oh dear, an absolute and utter nobody!
Comedian? :
Imagine that, a world in which the UK hadn't been plunged into chaos twice in twelve months & faced an era defining fork in the road led by a fatally weakened government propped up by a bunch quasi religious homophobic ex paramilitary fanatics. But yeah, lesbian comedian though.

State of this.
Quite. And yet we have to listen to doddering old farts with shaky handwriting like dildoez telling how great things are now instead. Marvelous.


Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

245 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Sue Perkins' Tweet on Farage -

Farage. Not an MP. A member of a party who have no MPs. Just a man in a camel coat holding a pint of beer, ranting. Treat him thus.
I'm not sure advocating listening to a Sue Perkins telling you what to think is all that great either. It does seemingly fit though with the Facebook generation style of doing politics and the Russell ( don't ask me complex questions, I'm just a comedian )Brand type disciples message.
It does worry me young people seemingly need to be told what to think by people they see as trusted outsiders from politics, rather than having their own bullst meter.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Deptford Draylons said:
Breadvan72 said:
Sue Perkins' Tweet on Farage -

Farage. Not an MP. A member of a party who have no MPs. Just a man in a camel coat holding a pint of beer, ranting. Treat him thus.
I'm not sure advocating listening to a Sue Perkins telling you what to think is all that great either. It does seemingly fit though with the Facebook generation style of doing politics and the Russell ( don't ask me complex questions, I'm just a comedian )Brand type disciples message.
It does worry me young people seemingly need to be told what to think by people they see as trusted outsiders from politics, rather than having their own bullst meter.
Any normal person with a bullst meter ought to be able to work out that Farage regularly hits the red zone.

s2art

18,939 posts

255 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Greg66 said:
Any normal person with a bullst meter ought to be able to work out that Farage regularly hits the red zone.
Perhaps. But he has called things right too often for him to be ignored.

B'stard Child

28,511 posts

248 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Greg66 said:
Deptford Draylons said:
Breadvan72 said:
Sue Perkins' Tweet on Farage -

Farage. Not an MP. A member of a party who have no MPs. Just a man in a camel coat holding a pint of beer, ranting. Treat him thus.
I'm not sure advocating listening to a Sue Perkins telling you what to think is all that great either. It does seemingly fit though with the Facebook generation style of doing politics and the Russell ( don't ask me complex questions, I'm just a comedian )Brand type disciples message.
It does worry me young people seemingly need to be told what to think by people they see as trusted outsiders from politics, rather than having their own bullst meter.
Any normal person with a bullst meter ought to be able to work out that Farage regularly hits the red zone.
But he hit the G-spot with the EU and called it for exactly what it is

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

88 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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I see the youth (whom we entirely ignored in the general election) fked us Tory backlash is in full flow. Several threads & now this bks.

Get over it guys, will of the people etc. etc. Up the Orange men!

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

245 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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I wonder if Maureen of Driving School fame has any tweets telling us what to think on only non career damaging subjects. I'd so love to be informed by her thinking, rather than using my own ability to decide if politicians are talking crap.

Jonmx

2,557 posts

215 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-4021153...

I know the bloke in the link above who ran here for UKIP, but defected to the Conservatives before the count was completed for pretty much the same reason. He's been involved with them for some time now, and has a good grasp of politics so it's hard to believe he's only just realised there's a problem element with the party. A very interesting chap with a rather chequered past so I'm not sure if he had some other reason for standing for them.


Mojooo

12,806 posts

182 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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who are the behind the scenes leaders of UKIP then?

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

95 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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They should do the decent thing and disband the moment our MEPs are no longer required in Brussels and the sooner that is, the better

Bill

53,083 posts

257 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Eddie Strohacker said:
I see the youth (whom we entirely ignored in the general election) fked us Tory backlash is in full flow. Several threads & now this bks.

Get over it guys, will of the people etc. etc. Up the Orange men!
Yeah but no but Remoaners. rolleyes

They've gone strangely quiet on the subject of democratic votes too.

///ajd

8,964 posts

208 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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B'stard Child said:
But he hit the G-spot with the EU and called it for exactly what it is
Only for the gullible.

He demonized it through lies, bullst and bendy bananas for the lightly brained.

All now coming home to roost.

JagLover

42,644 posts

237 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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FN2TypeR said:
They should do the decent thing and disband the moment our MEPs are no longer required in Brussels and the sooner that is, the better
If it happens

If the Tories follow the siren voices in the media then almost certainly UKIP will be back, stronger than ever.

B'stard Child

28,511 posts

248 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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///ajd said:
B'stard Child said:
But he hit the G-spot with the EU and called it for exactly what it is
Only for the gullible.

He demonized it through lies, bullst and bendy bananas for the lightly brained.

All now coming home to roost.
What the actual fk "lightly brained" - you didn't use the word racist spin

Lies down



///ajd

8,964 posts

208 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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B'stard Child said:
What the actual fk "lightly brained" - you didn't use the word racist spin

Lies down
I'd say people quoting bendy bananas as the top reason to leave the EU are a bit lightly brained, wouldn't you?

Anyone here willing to put that forward as their top thing to change?

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

88 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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///ajd said:
I'd say people quoting bendy bananas as the top reason to leave the EU are a bit lightly brained, wouldn't you?

Anyone here willing to put that forward as their top thing to change?
As an aside, we do all know that the bananas thing was made up by Boris when he was th Telegraph's Brussels correspondent, right? And that his stream of pejorative EU stories eventually got him the bullet off that paper?

Extrapolating, one can argue that his & the rest of the right wing presses 25 years of drip, drip anti EU polemic in no way whatsoever informed the national narrative on Europe. No siree, not a jot.

rscott

14,835 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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So Nuttall hadn't even seen the manifesto when he took part in the TV debate

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/11/u...