Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 8
Discussion
powerstroke said:
Oh please ,Do you really want even more Scots coming to live south of the border and telling us how great Scotland is !!!
A voice of reason. If only people who have been banging on about uncontrolled immigration included Scotland along side the east European hordes......Mrr T said:
Can I suggest you read the publication. Its an estimate. It cannot be exact because the figures do not exist. It's better on expenditure. But even then you have expenses incurred in the RUK which will cover Scotland and vise versus. The split on many taxes is a compete estimate. Taxes such as VAT, corporation tax, and duties are reported at a UK level with no split between RUK and Scotland. GERS splits these using methods published in the report but these are estimates as the report makes clear. The report even includes estimates for potential error. My spelling may be poor but you do not seem to understand the word EXACT.
Contained within GERS are the EXACT numbers used for audit for tax and spend based on previous years. If these didn't exist then a block grant could not be calculated and the formula for this was agreed and signed-off as part of the last Scotland Act. IIRC Finance Minister at the time John Swinney was cock-a-hoop over the marvellous deal he got 'for Scotland' as a result of that formula.You can argue over the divvy and projections going forward but these are the numbers that the Scottish Government use. If the SNP/Nationalists are not happy with their own work then they should question/revise them. but they won't because they know they are accurate and they do f'kng well out of it - they just want to do what Derek MacKay does and tell lies about them when it suits them because it feeds the cult's fake news and false narratives.
Typical though of Nats to blame others for what they entirely do. Jeanne Freeman and PFI contracts comes to mind as well....
Edited by Evercross on Sunday 1st December 17:22
hoagypubdog said:
Where I live has gone from Labour to SNP to Tory, must be the Lib Dems turn next.. not that I'll be voting for them. Only 4 choices here, where are the Monster Raving Loonies when you need them.
Be like Lord Buckethead! It's too late to get on the ballot for this farrago but in future you could be the OMRLP candidate for your constituency!Big Robbo said:
A voice of reason. If only people who have been banging on about uncontrolled immigration included Scotland along side the east European hordes......
Just a guess but I'm sensing that this poster is not a fan of Caledonia, Haven't we, the reason for the blue in the union jack, been a boon to GB these last 300 years ?
You know in your heart this to be true, although I do apologise for The Proclaimers, who are truly sh ite to an epic degree.
hoagypubdog said:
B'stard Child said:
hoagypubdog said:
where are the Monster Raving Loonies when you need them.
Amazing not 10 mins ago a leaflet for them dropped through my letterbox - made absolutely no sense at allCantaloupe said:
Big Robbo said:
A voice of reason. If only people who have been banging on about uncontrolled immigration included Scotland along side the east European hordes......
Just a guess but I'm sensing that this poster is not a fan of Caledonia, Haven't we, the reason for the blue in the union jack, been a boon to GB these last 300 years ?
You know in your heart this to be true, although I do apologise for The Proclaimers, who are truly sh ite to an epic degree.
Maybe the English should have a referendum on whether we actually WANT Scotland?? Just because Betty likes to go on holiday there shouldn't mean the rest of us have to put up with the porridge guzzlers
Big Robbo said:
The only ONE good thing that came from Scotland was King Kenny and as for apologies regarding the proclaimers.....there are two of them!!
Maybe the English should have a referendum on whether we actually WANT Scotland?? Just because Betty likes to go on holiday there shouldn't mean the rest of us have to put up with the porridge guzzlers
As a Welshman who lives in England I can assure fellow Scots we without question WANT you to be part of our special union. Maybe the English should have a referendum on whether we actually WANT Scotland?? Just because Betty likes to go on holiday there shouldn't mean the rest of us have to put up with the porridge guzzlers
hoagypubdog said:
Autonomy said:
Watching the ITV debate thing again..does we nippy fall asleep every night, tucked up in her YES duvet cover, muttering "against our will" "against our will" "against our.. zzzzz"
Think that's the chant of king Alex's victims, allegedlySeriously though why isn’t this issue harming the SNP support? They make great noise about Jacob Rees Mogg and so many others about either slip of the tongues or woefully bad judgements. Yet sexual assault and attempted rape claims with him in court facing those... makes it very challenging to not despise
Welshbeef said:
That made me LOL.
Seriously though why isn’t this issue harming the SNP support? They make great noise about Jacob Rees Mogg and so many others about either slip of the tongues or woefully bad judgements. Yet sexual assault and attempted rape claims with him in court facing those... makes it very challenging to not despise
Because unfortunately the election came before the trial. Plus a great number of SNP voters will vote SNP regardless, it's only the soft SNP that would switch, and I'm not sure how many of them there are. Too fSeriously though why isn’t this issue harming the SNP support? They make great noise about Jacob Rees Mogg and so many others about either slip of the tongues or woefully bad judgements. Yet sexual assault and attempted rape claims with him in court facing those... makes it very challenging to not despise
king many though, that much is evident.technodup said:
ecause unfortunately the election came before the trial. Plus a great number of SNP voters will vote SNP regardless, it's only the soft SNP that would switch, and I'm not sure how many of them there are. Too fking many though, that much is evident.
Sexual assault & attempted rape is right at the top of the tree when it comes to crime. king many though, that much is evident.Is there nothing that they can do to have a negative impact to the hard core SNP voter?
I cringe at the Letterbox comment, have read the article and I get his point he is actually supporting freedom of choice yet his words are woeful.
Had he however done as Salmond is charged with and facing trial I’d for the first time ever not vote so Tory would lose my vote in this election - and it would pain me to do so gifting Labour more chance of victory but I couldn’t stomach it.
Welshbeef said:
Is there nothing that they can do to have a negative impact to the hard core SNP voter? .
No fan of the SNP but what would be the logic of a long time hard core SNP supporter forsaking the cause because of the indiscretions of an ex leader ?
You know, we're not children, it doesn't follow that because one supports the SNP that they also think that attempted rape
is acceptable.
Why do ‘no thanks’ voters not just vote Tory
It’s been made certain that Sturgeon will treat an SNP majority as a green light for indyref
Can’t folk just be pragmatic and vote for least bad? Are they incapable of putting aside their preferences and morals to avoid something far far worse
It’s been made certain that Sturgeon will treat an SNP majority as a green light for indyref
Can’t folk just be pragmatic and vote for least bad? Are they incapable of putting aside their preferences and morals to avoid something far far worse
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