45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3
Discussion
Eric Mc said:
del mar said:
If the countries he referred to as **** holes are not **** holes why do people leave them and travel to the US to live ?
His comments were probably too wide, he should have said "some African countries are **** holes".
Whilst I don't know the exact numbers I don't imagine there is a huge number of Americans emigrating to Africa at the moment... Nor huge numbers of Europeans queuing up in Southern Italy waiting to make the trip across the med.
"In 2012, the United States provided nearly $12 billion in official development assistance (“ODA”) to African nations. The ODA is allocated to education, health, infrastructure and economic development programs in recipient countries. Currently, the United States allocates foreign aid to 47 African nations and USAID operates 27 missions on the continent." taken from borgenproject.org.
I wonder how many of these countries as so disgusted at his comments they will return their aid.
It's the language he uses.His comments were probably too wide, he should have said "some African countries are **** holes".
Whilst I don't know the exact numbers I don't imagine there is a huge number of Americans emigrating to Africa at the moment... Nor huge numbers of Europeans queuing up in Southern Italy waiting to make the trip across the med.
"In 2012, the United States provided nearly $12 billion in official development assistance (“ODA”) to African nations. The ODA is allocated to education, health, infrastructure and economic development programs in recipient countries. Currently, the United States allocates foreign aid to 47 African nations and USAID operates 27 missions on the continent." taken from borgenproject.org.
I wonder how many of these countries as so disgusted at his comments they will return their aid.
And, of course, most of the population of the USA emanate from countries that were "sh***holes" at some point in their history. Indeed, the Pilgrim Fathers left England because it was a "sh***hole" as far as they were concerned.
"almost all African countries are having a difficult time at the moment, and we do appear to see more Africans moving here than Americans moving there"
DMN said:
There are some great comments here:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICancelledMyTripToLond...
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICancelledMyTripToLond...
Because I found out that Clinton has a card shop there.
del mar said:
So we are ok if he said
"almost all African countries are having a difficult time at the moment, and we do appear to see more Africans moving here than Americans moving there"
It certainly would have sounded more reasoned and well thought out."almost all African countries are having a difficult time at the moment, and we do appear to see more Africans moving here than Americans moving there"
Often, it's not what you say but they way that you say it that counts.
I suppose, back in the 19th Century, they should have blocked the Poles, Irish, Italians, Armenians, Russian Jews, Germans etc. I mean, what have they brought to American culture?
Funkycoldribena said:
desolate said:
I am pleasantly surprised how few people have tried to defend these latest ramblings.
Believe it or not,a lot of people away from this echo chamber couldn't care less.del mar said:
If the countries he referred to as **** holes are not **** holes why do people leave them and travel to the US to live ?
His comments were probably too wide, he should have said "some African countries are **** holes".
Whilst I don't know the exact numbers I don't imagine there is a huge number of Americans emigrating to Africa at the moment... Nor huge numbers of Europeans queuing up in Southern Italy waiting to make the trip across the med.
"In 2012, the United States provided nearly $12 billion in official development assistance (“ODA”) to African nations. The ODA is allocated to education, health, infrastructure and economic development programs in recipient countries. Currently, the United States allocates foreign aid to 47 African nations and USAID operates 27 missions on the continent." taken from borgenproject.org.
I wonder how many of these countries as so disgusted at his comments they will return their aid.
You really don't get it do you? Calling developing countries "stholes" is not the sort of language that the head of state of a major power should be using. It is even worse in that he is using it to denigrate the "huddling masses" coming to the USA as bidden by the Statue of Liberty.His comments were probably too wide, he should have said "some African countries are **** holes".
Whilst I don't know the exact numbers I don't imagine there is a huge number of Americans emigrating to Africa at the moment... Nor huge numbers of Europeans queuing up in Southern Italy waiting to make the trip across the med.
"In 2012, the United States provided nearly $12 billion in official development assistance (“ODA”) to African nations. The ODA is allocated to education, health, infrastructure and economic development programs in recipient countries. Currently, the United States allocates foreign aid to 47 African nations and USAID operates 27 missions on the continent." taken from borgenproject.org.
I wonder how many of these countries as so disgusted at his comments they will return their aid.
Does the USA's giving aid entitle Trump to be vulgar and offensive? Of course it does not.
Funkycoldribena said:
desolate said:
I am pleasantly surprised how few people have tried to defend these latest ramblings.
Believe it or not,a lot of people away from this echo chamber couldn't care less.(I won't hold my breath waiting for an opinion)
Zod said:
You really don't get it do you? Calling developing countries "stholes" is not the sort of language that the head of state of a major power should be using. It is even worse in that he is using it to denigrate the "huddling masses" coming to the USA as bidden by the Statue of Liberty.
Does the USA's giving aid entitle Trump to be vulgar and offensive? Of course it does not.
I think we probably need to remember that lots of people will be giving it a bit of a fist pump when they hear this st and feel that they finally have a president that is on their wavelength. Does the USA's giving aid entitle Trump to be vulgar and offensive? Of course it does not.
To many "winding up lefties" is a valid task for a politician.
Plus the racists will see it as a personal vindication after years of "PC gone mad"
I thought, from a British perspective, our Foreign Secretary's response was shameful.
Zod said:
You really don't get it do you? Calling developing countries "stholes" is not the sort of language that the head of state of a major power should be using. It is even worse in that he is using it to denigrate the "huddling masses" coming to the USA as bidden by the Statue of Liberty.
Does the USA's giving aid entitle Trump to be vulgar and offensive? Of course it does not.
What happens when you're offended?Does the USA's giving aid entitle Trump to be vulgar and offensive? Of course it does not.
Funkycoldribena said:
Doesn't bother me at all,and I very much doubt that beyond the usual mortally offended brigade anyone else gives a toss either.
I would say that it's pretty news and comment worthy that the POTUS is either lying directly to the world or is so poorly informed. Worthy of comment and derision.He's a laughing stock, and it's noticeable that people aren't really prepared to defend him this time.
Eric Mc said:
How come you keep coming back to this so called "echo chamber"?. Your presence proves it isn't one. Other views can be expressed, no matter how obnoxious others may view them.
Can't win,over the last week I've been accused of flouncing and then told to pretty much bugger off....Funkycoldribena said:
Eric Mc said:
How come you keep coming back to this so called "echo chamber"?. Your presence proves it isn't one. Other views can be expressed, no matter how obnoxious others may view them.
Can't win,over the last week I've been accused of flouncing and then told to pretty much bugger off....That does get a bit tedious.
Eric Mc said:
Most of your comments are based on having a go at posters rather than discussing the issues.
That does get a bit tedious.
So does 'orange','moron','hair',and crap memes.That does get a bit tedious.
I love good humour but its so crap and unoriginal.
And now we get calling somewhere a sthole is racist.Is anything not racist nowadays?
Funkycoldribena said:
So does 'orange','moron','hair',and crap memes.
I love good humour but its so crap and unoriginal.
And now we get calling somewhere a sthole is racist.Is anything not racist nowadays?
Loads of things aren't racist - literally loads. The evidence suggests that The Donald isn't one of themI love good humour but its so crap and unoriginal.
And now we get calling somewhere a sthole is racist.Is anything not racist nowadays?
He actually said he wanted more immigration from a country like Norway. Why would Norwegians want to move to a sthole country that has a moron as president?
He's a laughing stock.
When even republicans think he's racist..
Former RNC chairman Michael Steele chimes in.
In an appearance on MSNBC’s “Live with Hallie Jackson,” Steele was asked if he thinks Trump is a racist.
“Yeah, I do,” Steele said. “At this point … the evidence is incontrovertible.”
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368702-...
Former RNC chairman Michael Steele chimes in.
In an appearance on MSNBC’s “Live with Hallie Jackson,” Steele was asked if he thinks Trump is a racist.
“Yeah, I do,” Steele said. “At this point … the evidence is incontrovertible.”
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368702-...
‘Orange ‘ ‘moron’ ‘echo chamber’ ‘small hands’
Guess who’s back in town.
Honestly FCR it’s becoming boring, it seems to be all you’ve got to say.
If you can’t/won’t debate it why bother even coming here?
You just churn out the same rubbish time after time after time. Ad nauseam.
Awaits incoming..........
Guess who’s back in town.
Honestly FCR it’s becoming boring, it seems to be all you’ve got to say.
If you can’t/won’t debate it why bother even coming here?
You just churn out the same rubbish time after time after time. Ad nauseam.
Awaits incoming..........
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