45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3
Discussion
Halb said:
No one would have believed in the last years of the twentieth century that this president would be watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than his and yet as mortal as his own; that as he busied himself about his various concerns he was scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water.
Chances of anyone being better than Trump are a billion to one, he saidV6Pushfit said:
Trump Tweet:
Today, it was my great honor to proclaim January 15, 2018, as Martin Luther King Jr., Federal Holiday.
Fact:
On Nov. 3, 1983, President Ronald Reagan signed a bill marking the third Monday of every January, as Martin Luther King, Jr., day.
I mean..... hello???????
All Presidents do it as a matter of tradition to reaffirm the status of the day. Today, it was my great honor to proclaim January 15, 2018, as Martin Luther King Jr., Federal Holiday.
Fact:
On Nov. 3, 1983, President Ronald Reagan signed a bill marking the third Monday of every January, as Martin Luther King, Jr., day.
I mean..... hello???????
This was Obama's from last year for Dr King. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-off...
This is Trumps https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/pr...
Its almost a daily ceremonial occurrence for the President to make proclamations, often reaffirming historical ones of national interest. This is the link to Obama's. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-room...
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 13th January 02:32
PomBstard said:
Halb said:
No one would have believed in the last years of the twentieth century that this president would be watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than his and yet as mortal as his own; that as he busied himself about his various concerns he was scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water.
Chances of anyone being better than Trump are a billion to one, he saidHalb said:
I've acclimatised to Trump. I have become desensitised. I'm not sure how anything he tweets now can come as amazing.
It's a bit like Star Wars for me,now I have detached myself from being a fan of whatever Disney churns out, I can view critically without emotion the goings on.
No one would have believed in the last years of the twentieth century that this president would be watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than his and yet as mortal as his own; that as he busied himself about his various concerns he was scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water.
Maybe the red weed will get him eventually.It's a bit like Star Wars for me,now I have detached myself from being a fan of whatever Disney churns out, I can view critically without emotion the goings on.
No one would have believed in the last years of the twentieth century that this president would be watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than his and yet as mortal as his own; that as he busied himself about his various concerns he was scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water.
This thread moves too fast to contribute to it in a manner which would make sense very often.
Trump was elected. Given that fact, which of his actions do you think alienate the people who put him in power? From his camp's perspective, that's all that matters. It was clear what he was, he was still elected. All he has to do is maintain his majority.
What purpose he serves in his position is hard to tell. Maybe his party are playing the long game and just wanted the seat. Trump's PR machine will damp down the flames of the indignant minority, the voting majority probably like what he said. The coastal cultured media superpowers don't reflect the views of the middle American Trump supporters.
What is clear is that many people have views which many other people don't like. I think we're seeing a shift in culture where all this s
t is tolerated, or is a shared opinion, so standards are seen to be falling by certain quarters. E.g. Lying through your teeth is becoming an acceptable norm. To some it is morally reprehensible and offensive but others don't care. And it takes a hell of a lot of work to disprove the lie beyond doubt. Even then the waters will be muddied and in the time it took to address the lie another five will have been told. It is impossible for the truth to keep up.
Trump election vs Brexit is an interesting comparison. I see many parallels between recent events and Brexit. The UK is now becoming more isolated and insular by choice. That's what was voted for and that's what will happen. Boris and Farage may not have used Fruity language but they steered a voting majority on to their side. The implications of that are yet to be fully understood but by the time we know what they are it will be too late to change our minds. I wonder if any US forums have long threads about Brexit and what it says about the UK, its people and culture.
Trump was elected. Given that fact, which of his actions do you think alienate the people who put him in power? From his camp's perspective, that's all that matters. It was clear what he was, he was still elected. All he has to do is maintain his majority.
What purpose he serves in his position is hard to tell. Maybe his party are playing the long game and just wanted the seat. Trump's PR machine will damp down the flames of the indignant minority, the voting majority probably like what he said. The coastal cultured media superpowers don't reflect the views of the middle American Trump supporters.
What is clear is that many people have views which many other people don't like. I think we're seeing a shift in culture where all this s
t is tolerated, or is a shared opinion, so standards are seen to be falling by certain quarters. E.g. Lying through your teeth is becoming an acceptable norm. To some it is morally reprehensible and offensive but others don't care. And it takes a hell of a lot of work to disprove the lie beyond doubt. Even then the waters will be muddied and in the time it took to address the lie another five will have been told. It is impossible for the truth to keep up.Trump election vs Brexit is an interesting comparison. I see many parallels between recent events and Brexit. The UK is now becoming more isolated and insular by choice. That's what was voted for and that's what will happen. Boris and Farage may not have used Fruity language but they steered a voting majority on to their side. The implications of that are yet to be fully understood but by the time we know what they are it will be too late to change our minds. I wonder if any US forums have long threads about Brexit and what it says about the UK, its people and culture.
ferrisbueller said:
Trump was elected. Given that fact, which of his actions do you think alienate the people who put him in power? From his camp's perspective, that's all that matters. It was clear what he was, he was still elected. All he has to do is maintain his majority.
I agree - it's unlikely that his tweets/statements will have a negative effect on the core of his vote. BUT it was a very close election so he doesn't need to lose many votes to have the balance tipped against him.It's also unlikely his behaviour will gain votes over and above those who voted for him but if the economy performs there could be enough people who ignore his behaviour and tick the box.
Gameface said:
I think his legacy will be devaluing the post of POTUS to the point that voters will think that anyone can do the job.
Well this is the thing, anyone can do the job, and if it is the grail of political appointments, what does that say if the rest, including our own hotchpotch of lecturers, hypocrites, bluffers and showpeople...?
Seventy said:
Eric Mc said:
Looks like his lawyers have been paying off porn stars - a lady who goes by the professional name of "Stormy Daniels"..
Why am I not surprised.
Allegedly Eric, allegedly. Why am I not surprised.
Allegedly, he's President of the US - but I'm waiting for him to do something Presidential.
Bill said:
A small number of people in a few swing states put him into power. His position imo is tenuous, and if he starts losing the Republicans seats elsewhere he will be out PDQ.
Depends how you look at it.The swing states got him over the line. The millions of votes in other states got him within sight of it.
jmorgan said:
Where does paying off admit guilt?
Ok, seems a simple question but in US law, can the pay off be to simple quiet a chancer or any real dirt to be hidden or all points in between?
#Ok, seems a simple question but in US law, can the pay off be to simple quiet a chancer or any real dirt to be hidden or all points in between?
That's the whole point of "paying off". It's about shutting people up so the question is never asked.
As we can see, it doesn't always work.
Eric Mc said:
jmorgan said:
Where does paying off admit guilt?
Ok, seems a simple question but in US law, can the pay off be to simple quiet a chancer or any real dirt to be hidden or all points in between?
#Ok, seems a simple question but in US law, can the pay off be to simple quiet a chancer or any real dirt to be hidden or all points in between?
That's the whole point of "paying off". It's about shutting people up so the question is never asked.
As we can see, it doesn't always work.
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