45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3

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Byker28i

60,736 posts

218 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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p1stonhead said:
Pence thinks people have ten second memories.

He probably did t remember that because it didn't mean anything to him, it wasn't important, part of his beliefs.. It was a political point made for trump at tax payers expense.

Byker28i

60,736 posts

218 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Probably one of the media team posting that anyway.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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He gets in his core beliefs, men and god. ergh.

B'stard Child

28,476 posts

247 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Russian Troll Bot said:


U ok hun?
roflroflrofl

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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In no way does this help or advance the debate for either side, but I couldn't help posting it


paulguitar

23,782 posts

114 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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wsurfa said:
In no way does this help or advance the debate for either side, but I couldn't help posting it

I feel slightly sick!

B'stard Child

28,476 posts

247 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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paulguitar said:
wsurfa said:
In no way does this help or advance the debate for either side, but I couldn't help posting it

I feel slightly sick!
I can't stop laughing biggrin

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Escapegoat said:
You don't need such a poorly contrived comparison; Japanese society does have a huge problem with racism. (It's also far worse than America on welcoming refugees, for example.)
it's up to them to decide how many refugees/foreigners they want to admit to the country, why do you think you have the right to tell them how many they should bring? USA/UK started several stupid wars lately and might have moral obligation to accept some, Japan on the other side wasn't in war since WWII.

Tryke3

1,609 posts

95 months

rscott

14,799 posts

192 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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AreOut said:
Escapegoat said:
You don't need such a poorly contrived comparison; Japanese society does have a huge problem with racism. (It's also far worse than America on welcoming refugees, for example.)
it's up to them to decide how many refugees/foreigners they want to admit to the country, why do you think you have the right to tell them how many they should bring? USA/UK started several stupid wars lately and might have moral obligation to accept some, Japan on the other side wasn't in war since WWII.
Are you suggesting the USA has a moral obligation to accept refugees from Syria?

AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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mainly Iraq, although war in Syria has lot to do with what happened in Iraq

sherbertdip

1,129 posts

120 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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So what would you give Trump in his first year; A+ or a big fat F?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-42694...

At least some people, well, 4 are happy with him, it just shows that for some he "is" doing it right!

Edited by sherbertdip on Tuesday 16th January 06:08

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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paulguitar said:
wsurfa said:
In no way does this help or advance the debate for either side, but I couldn't help posting it

I feel slightly sick!
If you think that's bad then feast your eyes on this:


JagLover

42,544 posts

236 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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DeejRC said:
Unfortunately for those who dont like Clinton (either/any of them), he really was a very adept President.
In comparison Obama was mediocre, but most Presidents are invariably mediocre. Tis the nature of job and position because Congress, Senate and the President - far from it being a problem that affected Obama - are rarely all aligned. Again, its *almost* a design of the US system for that to be so. And its no accident. The Founding Fathers of America's political system really really knew what they were doing chaps and being the usual typically cynical and arrogant Europeans, we dont give them enough credit.
True on both counts, and good or great Presidents recognise when they need to compromise and realise the limitations of their office.

Look back through the "achievements" of Obama's time in office and all you can see is a highly partisan, and deeply flawed, attempt at healthcare reform. If they had moved to a European model it would be preferable to the mess they ended up with.

Any system that generates double digit premium rises each year for the poor sods who have to pay for their own health insurance has some major flaws.

I think whether Clinton was the last "great" president depends on your definition of great. But certainly someone who had significant domestic policy success and no foreign policy disasters should be regarded as good, regardless of how he spent his R&R.






Edited by JagLover on Tuesday 16th January 06:52

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Now a report on NBC that he is for taxing the internet? That has got to be out of context shirley?

Vaud

50,757 posts

156 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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AreOut said:
it's up to them to decide how many refugees/foreigners they want to admit to the country, why do you think you have the right to tell them how many they should bring? USA/UK started several stupid wars lately and might have moral obligation to accept some, Japan on the other side wasn't in war since WWII.
Well they haven’t had an offensive capability since WWII.

Byker28i

60,736 posts

218 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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rscott said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
rscott said:
He certainly gave hope to a large segment of the US population though. Perhaps his inability to deliver and lack of decent candidates meant that segment didn't vote in as large numbers this time and so eased Trump's path to victory.
Same could be said about Trump voters, funny how they are seen as deluded idiot fools by many but Obama voters where not. One thing is for sure the Obama voters have now been proven to have had false hope and in away proven to be deluded. I wont call them idiots or fools because I don't think they are.

Its likely that Trump voters will learn the same lessons. I just don't like how one group is criticized and called one thing and another group is praised for doing almost exactly the same thing.
The difference being Obama's message was "you're as good as anyone else" whereas Trump's is "they've taken your jobs/money, time to take it back"
Let's just counter this rubbish that NTM likes to produce, that trump isn't racist.
Trump has been convicted in court of being racist, because he didn't want to rent apartments to black people.

Just since he started his election he has:
Called for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the US
Claimed he lost his Trump University case because the judge was mexican
Claimed all mexicans were rapists and thieves
Claimed for years that Obama wasn't american
Points out crimes in the US or UK committed by dark skinned people but ignores those by white supremacists or white shooters
Speaking of White Supremacists - called them 'fine people' , would not speak against David Duke and his comments even when asked on TV
His support for Roy Moore and Joe Arpaio

and thats just from the top of my head, I've no doubt I've missed many, many more

He's created this 'stuation' though his consistant racist language and behaviour. We shouldn't be surprised because this is what he's done for years, but to claim that he isn't racist and appealing to his racist base is nothing short of an astonishing attempt to normalise this behaviour. If nothing else it's outed several people


Byker28i

60,736 posts

218 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Following the administrations release of recordings, proving that team Trump does have recordings, Durbin has asked for the release of the recording of the 'sthole' meeting.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpol...

Countdown

40,068 posts

197 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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jmorgan said:
Now a report on NBC that he is for taxing the internet? That has got to be out of context shirley?
This?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/11/trump-hits-amazon-...


Trump said:
Why is the United States Post Office, which is losing many billions of dollars a year, while charging Amazon and others so little to deliver their packages, making Amazon richer and the Post Office dumber and poorer? Should be charging MUCH MORE!
His stupidity never ceases to amaze. Does he think the USPO are doing Amazon some kind of favour?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Obama was hamstrung by not having the other branches of government on side most of the time. Yet he still turned round a failing economy. 800,000 job losses a quarter when he took over turned round in about a year.
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