Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party? (Vol. 2)

[anonymoususer]

86 said:

Yet another u turn today. This time the pledge to get rid of leaseholds within 100 days

Anybody know what Labour stands for ?

Yes it's
We are not the Tories

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68797258

[Fermit]

Garvin said:

You do seem so angry though about a bit of cake and fizz yet blatant defrauding the tax man and, thereby, the tax paying public at large is OK with you.

A bit?! There were 14 'parties', one the night before the Duke Of Edinburghs funeral. Reports of MP's taking suitcases to the local off licence to fill with bottles of wine. Show me a party where the wine needs collecting in a suitcase and I'll be there.

I've yet to read any solid evidence that AR has defrauded anyone.

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Fermit said:

Garvin said:

You do seem so angry though about a bit of cake and fizz yet blatant defrauding the tax man and, thereby, the tax paying public at large is OK with you.

A bit?! There were 14 'parties', one the night before the Duke Of Edinburghs funeral. Reports of MP's taking suitcases to the local off licence to fill with bottles of wine. Show me a party where the wine needs collecting in a suitcase and I'll be there.

I've yet to read any solid evidence that AR has defrauded anyone.

She is currently being investigated for pretty much that.

[Fermit]

119 said:

She is currently being investigated for pretty much that.

Someone is investigated to ascertain if there is any evidence.

[AstonZagato]

119 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68797258

I'm starting to wonder if Keir's team are stirring this one up too. I'm sure he'd love to be rid of her but has no power to fire her.

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AstonZagato said:

119 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68797258

I'm starting to wonder if Keir's team are stirring this one up too. I'm sure he'd love to be rid of her but has no power to fire her.

Could he still bin her off though?

I was under the impression her job was relatively stable and couldnt be ‘sacked’.

[valiant]

119 said:

She is currently being investigated for pretty much that.

Investigation doesn’t equal guilt as we were told numerous times on the JCB bloke thread.

I don’t *think* that Starmer can actually sack her though. It’s an elected position so she’ll have to either fall on her sword and resign or the NEC has to take a vote to get rid.

[bitchstewie]

Fermit said:

A bit?! There were 14 'parties', one the night before the Duke Of Edinburghs funeral. Reports of MP's taking suitcases to the local off licence to fill with bottles of wine. Show me a party where the wine needs collecting in a suitcase and I'll be there.

I've yet to read any solid evidence that AR has defrauded anyone.

Quite.

Downing Street was the most fined workplace in the UK under Covid Legislation whilst Johnson was in charge

For Garvin to try to reduce that to "a bit of cake and fizz" tells you everything you need to know about his own low standards.

[NomduJour]

bhstewie said:

Fermit said:

A bit?! There were 14 'parties', one the night before the Duke Of Edinburghs funeral. Reports of MP's taking suitcases to the local off licence to fill with bottles of wine. Show me a party where the wine needs collecting in a suitcase and I'll be there.

I've yet to read any solid evidence that AR has defrauded anyone

Quite.

Downing Street was the most fined workplace in the UK under Covid Legislation whilst Johnson was in charge

For Garvin to try to reduce that to "a bit of cake and fizz" tells you everything you need to know about his own low standards

Does anyone genuinely believe that narrative?

The people getting drunk and wheeling suitcases of booze down Whitehall from the Co-Op were all (Lefty) civil servants and admin staff, it had about as much to do with MPs and the Prime Minister as it did with me.

[S600BSB]

NomduJour said:

bhstewie said:

Fermit said:

A bit?! There were 14 'parties', one the night before the Duke Of Edinburghs funeral. Reports of MP's taking suitcases to the local off licence to fill with bottles of wine. Show me a party where the wine needs collecting in a suitcase and I'll be there.

I've yet to read any solid evidence that AR has defrauded anyone

Quite.

Downing Street was the most fined workplace in the UK under Covid Legislation whilst Johnson was in charge

For Garvin to try to reduce that to "a bit of cake and fizz" tells you everything you need to know about his own low standards

Does anyone genuinely believe that narrative?

The people getting drunk and wheeling suitcases of booze down Whitehall from the Co-Op were all (Lefty) civil servants and admin staff, it had about as much to do with MPs and the Prime Minister as it did with me.

Co-Op? Was a Tesco Express last time I went in.

[NomduJour]

Co-Op on the end of the Strand was supposedly the source of the suitcase booze, I think.

[Garvin]

bhstewie said:

Quite.

Downing Street was the most fined workplace in the UK under Covid Legislation whilst Johnson was in charge

For Garvin to try to reduce that to "a bit of cake and fizz" tells you everything you need to know about his own low standards.

I enjoy a good piss up and don’t get all frothy and envious of others who also enjoy them. At least I don’t participate in tax evasion, nor do I support those who do!

[S600BSB]

NomduJour said:

Co-Op on the end of the Strand was supposedly the source of the suitcase booze, I think.

Oh ok. I assumed they popped out to the Tesco next to Westminster tube - less distance to wheel the suitcase etc. Maybe Co-Op stock a better Cava.

[Wombat3]

NomduJour said:

bhstewie said:

Fermit said:

A bit?! There were 14 'parties', one the night before the Duke Of Edinburghs funeral. Reports of MP's taking suitcases to the local off licence to fill with bottles of wine. Show me a party where the wine needs collecting in a suitcase and I'll be there.

I've yet to read any solid evidence that AR has defrauded anyone

Quite.

Downing Street was the most fined workplace in the UK under Covid Legislation whilst Johnson was in charge

For Garvin to try to reduce that to "a bit of cake and fizz" tells you everything you need to know about his own low standards

Does anyone genuinely believe that narrative?

The people getting drunk and wheeling suitcases of booze down Whitehall from the Co-Op were all (Lefty) civil servants and admin staff, it had about as much to do with MPs and the Prime Minister as it did with me.

Stewie does, he reckons they must have had cabinet meetings about organising knees-ups in #10

EIther that or he thinks Boris was derelict in not patrolling the corridors like some demented Etonian housemaster!

[Fermit]

NomduJour said:

Does anyone genuinely believe that narrative?

Yes actually. The findings are out there for anyone to read. But yeah, let's blame lefties for that one, FFS

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Fermit said:

NomduJour said:

Does anyone genuinely believe that narrative?

Yes actually. The findings are out there for anyone to read. But yeah, let's blame lefties for that one, FFS

What are you talking about?

Nobody has blamed anyone else.

FFS indeed.

[bitchstewie]

Garvin said:

I enjoy a good piss up and don’t get all frothy and envious of others who also enjoy them. At least I don’t participate in tax evasion, nor do I support those who do!

There's a time and a place for it though and the middle of a pandemic isn't it.

It's all in the Sue Gray report.

The fish rots from the head.

[hidetheelephants]

I hadn't realised SKS organised the No. 10 piss-ups; he's a dark horse that one.

[NomduJour]

Fermit said:

Yes actually. The findings are out there for anyone to read. But yeah, let's blame lefties for that one, FFS

Lolz. I may have a bridge to sell you.