Brexit: would you change your vote.
Discussion
InitialDave said:
Robertj21a said:
I'm surprised that you of all people can't understand what the Leave vote meant.
I'll give you a clue, it meant LEAVE (as we are doing).
Good heavens, if you can't understand the basics then what hope is there for other frothing Remainers ?
So as long as we leave, the details of how don't matter to you?I'll give you a clue, it meant LEAVE (as we are doing).
Good heavens, if you can't understand the basics then what hope is there for other frothing Remainers ?
For instance, if we left, but continued paying what we were paying in, to take the same benefits, and with the same requirement to fit in with the EU, would you consider that leaving?
If not, you should understand why people want to be able to have a final say on how things are done. If you say "but that's not leaving!", yes, you're probably right - and a vote would be the only opportunity you'd get to say that.
I voted to leave it, and that is what we are doing.
You can argue, and try to qualify it as much as you like, but I voted to Leave.
Robertj21a said:
The option I saw on the Referendum ballot paper was very straightforward. I could either vote to stay in the EU - or leave it.
I voted to leave it, and that is what we are doing.
You can argue, and try to qualify it as much as you like, but I voted to Leave.
Didn't the ballot paper say something about membership on it.I voted to leave it, and that is what we are doing.
You can argue, and try to qualify it as much as you like, but I voted to Leave.
Ghibli said:
Robertj21a said:
The option I saw on the Referendum ballot paper was very straightforward. I could either vote to stay in the EU - or leave it.
I voted to leave it, and that is what we are doing.
You can argue, and try to qualify it as much as you like, but I voted to Leave.
Didn't the ballot paper say something about membership on it.I voted to leave it, and that is what we are doing.
You can argue, and try to qualify it as much as you like, but I voted to Leave.
Rich_W said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Regards the folks who harassed Anna Soubry, oops
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/23/p...
Odd that the Met didn't get involved when Lefties harangued JRMs children!https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/23/p...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/12/j...
Elysium said:
Seventy said:
'the problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence'
I think the flippant response this post received illustrates its point very neatly. None of us know how Brexit is going to turn out. Caution is an intelligent response.
Guess that's another one of those points that doesn't work both ways, eh?
Voted Remain because at the time I didn't have so much knowledge of the EU.
A couple of years on after studying every side of the argument and becoming much more clued about what the EU
really is, how it morphed into what it is, who runs it, and its long term agenda, I realise now I voted wrong.
As many have stated the original concept was always a great idea, but so often the case with organisations ...
The more power they get the more they want.
I voted Remain, the country voted Leave, it was the correct decision based on what the EU now is.. a power hungry Dictatorship.
I firmly believe time will show the majority made the right choice, time to just get on with it, we thrived before the EU, we can thrive
without it having a tight stranglehold grip of everything we do.
A couple of years on after studying every side of the argument and becoming much more clued about what the EU
really is, how it morphed into what it is, who runs it, and its long term agenda, I realise now I voted wrong.
As many have stated the original concept was always a great idea, but so often the case with organisations ...
The more power they get the more they want.
I voted Remain, the country voted Leave, it was the correct decision based on what the EU now is.. a power hungry Dictatorship.
I firmly believe time will show the majority made the right choice, time to just get on with it, we thrived before the EU, we can thrive
without it having a tight stranglehold grip of everything we do.
Robertj21a said:
The option I saw on the Referendum ballot paper was very straightforward. I could either vote to stay in the EU - or leave it.
I voted to leave it, and that is what we are doing.
You can argue, and try to qualify it as much as you like, but I voted to Leave.
So you'd accept a deal where it says we left on paper, while pretty much everything people who voted remain want to keep carries on as before? I voted to leave it, and that is what we are doing.
You can argue, and try to qualify it as much as you like, but I voted to Leave.
Ok, we'll do that, then everyone will be happy.
Raygun said:
Sf_Manta said:
Voted remain, will still vote remain
I have already lost one job because of this entire situation, the redundancy money I'm STILL owed 2 years (should have been no more than 18 months) on is being held up because of these events still going round in circles.
If they're holding your redundancy payment back because the UK voted to leave the EU which dosen't come into effect till March next year I would say you were working for a load of shysters.I have already lost one job because of this entire situation, the redundancy money I'm STILL owed 2 years (should have been no more than 18 months) on is being held up because of these events still going round in circles.
You wanted to stay in the EU which is fair enough but please spare us from false sob stories.
You might not believe that, but it's the situation I'm stuck in because of this whole mess, so please don't make assumptions without trying to understand first.
Edited by Sf_Manta on Monday 24th December 09:19
Sf_Manta said:
Voted remain, will still vote remain
There's just FAR too many questions and so few answers, credible facts and no less than 3 minsters whom have quit from the Brexit camp just cause they couldn't forfil these promises and now cry ' A second vote is undemocratic' shows that the facts are showing that what they said is nothing more than fantasy and a pipe dream.
But destroying a country in such a way and turning it into a shadow of it's former self, putting thousands of people's jobs, livelihoods, and lives on the line for the sake of national pride and the chaos witnessed thus far?
A well presented argument that shows the root of the problem we are experiencing - anxiety over what MIGHT happen when we leave. Not based on facts as we haven’t left. It’s a self fulfilling prophesy from remainers who have never wanted to leave and have convinced themselves that life on the other side will be a disaster.There's just FAR too many questions and so few answers, credible facts and no less than 3 minsters whom have quit from the Brexit camp just cause they couldn't forfil these promises and now cry ' A second vote is undemocratic' shows that the facts are showing that what they said is nothing more than fantasy and a pipe dream.
But destroying a country in such a way and turning it into a shadow of it's former self, putting thousands of people's jobs, livelihoods, and lives on the line for the sake of national pride and the chaos witnessed thus far?
On balance, I can see there are many benefits of being in the EU. We’ve always punched above our weight which is why people migrate to work here, free movement has facilitated that and been a benefit to us. However, now their own economies are prospering, Polish people are returning home as that’s where they would rather be. Being part of the EU is no guarantee that we will prosper as people will make their own choices. Germans will still want to sell us cars, tourists will still want to come to London to see the sights, only difference is we have the opportunity to determine under what terms and if something is to our detriment (e.g movement of unskilled labour), we can simply prevent it. Let’s also not forget we pay more into the EU than we receive in benefit whilst they determine what laws rule our nation.
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 24th December 09:21
Sf_Manta said:
Raygun said:
Sf_Manta said:
Voted remain, will still vote remain
I have already lost one job because of this entire situation, the redundancy money I'm STILL owed 2 years (should have been no more than 18 months) on is being held up because of these events still going round in circles.
If they're holding your redundancy payment back because the UK voted to leave the EU which dosen't come into effect till March next year I would say you were working for a load of shysters.I have already lost one job because of this entire situation, the redundancy money I'm STILL owed 2 years (should have been no more than 18 months) on is being held up because of these events still going round in circles.
You wanted to stay in the EU which is fair enough but please spare us from false sob stories.
Ghibli said:
gooner1 said:
Ghibli said:
gooner1 said:
Only on the Remain option.
And in the description of what the referendum was for.I recall Boris saying that we will have a special close relationship and a bespoke trade deal.
alfie2244 said:
Sf_Manta said:
Raygun said:
Sf_Manta said:
Voted remain, will still vote remain
I have already lost one job because of this entire situation, the redundancy money I'm STILL owed 2 years (should have been no more than 18 months) on is being held up because of these events still going round in circles.
If they're holding your redundancy payment back because the UK voted to leave the EU which dosen't come into effect till March next year I would say you were working for a load of shysters.I have already lost one job because of this entire situation, the redundancy money I'm STILL owed 2 years (should have been no more than 18 months) on is being held up because of these events still going round in circles.
You wanted to stay in the EU which is fair enough but please spare us from false sob stories.
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