Farage's March To Leave

[Digga]

I have long given up expecting people to have rational, selfless and reasoned arguments as to why they voted either way. I have a mate who's job makes him, in my eyes, something bordering on a saint (I cannot say what he does, because he'd be extremely easy to identify), a man of great compassion and patience. A person I truly believe to be kind, generous and selfless in nature. Yet his prime gripe about Brexit; it has made the cost of his house renovation increase.

The whole issue of in or out of the EU should transcend personal interest and political dogma, yet it is mired in it.

There is no way out. Those who want another vote will never be happy without one. Those (on both sides) who believe democracy hangs in the balance on whether the 2016 referendum is honoured, will be deeply unhappy with a second vote.

At least a departure, of any sort, on 29th March would have been fait acompli. Sure, people could rally around the ideal of rejoining the EU, but there would be no more stupid, pointless, endless discussion about whether or not the vote was valid and which direction parliament should take.

We can only hope the Brexit party avoids the far right and racist elements that UKIP has attracted. If it does, it will be a rational and safe place for those totally disillusioned with the way the two main UK parties have handled this whole affair, from start to finish. Make no mistake though, Tory and Labour votes will reduce in many constituencies.

[tangerine_sedge]

Digga said:

We can only hope the Brexit party avoids the far right and racist elements that UKIP has attracted. If it does, it will be a rational and safe place for those totally disillusioned with the way the two main UK parties have handled this whole affair, from start to finish. Make no mistake though, Tory and Labour votes will reduce in many constituencies.

The new Brexit party will pick up the hardcore leavers, but where will the equivalent remainers go?

[amusingduck]

tangerine_sedge said:

Digga said:

We can only hope the Brexit party avoids the far right and racist elements that UKIP has attracted. If it does, it will be a rational and safe place for those totally disillusioned with the way the two main UK parties have handled this whole affair, from start to finish. Make no mistake though, Tory and Labour votes will reduce in many constituencies.

The new Brexit party will pick up the hardcore leavers, but where will the equivalent remainers go?

TIG (now Change) or the Lib Dems?

[arfursleep]

Digga said:

We can only hope the Brexit party avoids the far right and racist elements that UKIP has attracted.

Farage is already a member

[And then she]

arfursleep said:

Digga said:

We can only hope the Brexit party avoids the far right and racist elements that UKIP has attracted.

Farage is already a member

But he's also a complete and utter shyster, as he's demonstrably not a racist, but likes to court those who are.

[Piha]

And then she said:

arfursleep said:

Digga said:

We can only hope the Brexit party avoids the far right and racist elements that UKIP has attracted.

Farage is already a member

But he's also a complete and utter shyster, as he's demonstrably not a racist, but likes to court those who are.

You're not wrong........

[Digga]

amusingduck said:

tangerine_sedge said:

Digga said:

We can only hope the Brexit party avoids the far right and racist elements that UKIP has attracted. If it does, it will be a rational and safe place for those totally disillusioned with the way the two main UK parties have handled this whole affair, from start to finish. Make no mistake though, Tory and Labour votes will reduce in many constituencies.

The new Brexit party will pick up the hardcore leavers, but where will the equivalent remainers go?

TIG (now Change) or the Lib Dems?

That's kind of what I thought.

Had I have voted remain, I think I would be almost as disillusioned with parliament and the handling of the whole issue. Not least because there is a very good argument to say it was daft to trigger the referendum in the firm place.

[smn159]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

It's more to do with;
a decline in intellectual curiosity,
a reduction in the ability to process information, leading to seeing issues as black and white, and tending to pre-judge based on scant evidence;
A reduced tolerance of any change

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/mr-persona...

[Vanden Saab]

smn159 said:

It's more to do with;
a decline in intellectual curiosity,
a reduction in the ability to process information, leading to seeing issues as black and white, and tending to pre-judge based on scant evidence;
A reduced tolerance of any change

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/mr-persona...

[TTwiggy]

Vanden Saab said:

smn159 said:

It's more to do with;
a decline in intellectual curiosity,
a reduction in the ability to process information, leading to seeing issues as black and white, and tending to pre-judge based on scant evidence;
A reduced tolerance of any change

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/mr-persona...

I see where you're trying to go with this but Brexit could be seen as a reaction against change by the 'I don't recognise my country' brigade.

[sas62]

smn159 said:

It's more to do with;
a decline in intellectual curiosity,
a reduction in the ability to process information, leading to seeing issues as black and white, and tending to pre-judge based on scant evidence;
A reduced tolerance of any change

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/mr-persona...

Quoting ...

The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed and won’t be until age 25 or so.

In fact, recent research has found that adult and teen brains work differently. Adults think with the prefrontal cortex, the brain’s rational part. This is the part of the brain that responds to situations with good judgment and an awareness of long-term consequences. Teens process information with the amygdala. This is the emotional part.

In teen’s brains, the connections between the emotional part of the brain and the decision-making centre are still developing—and not always at the same rate. That’s why when teens have overwhelming emotional input, they can’t explain later what they were thinking. They weren’t thinking as much as they were feeling.

www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?C...

[smn159]

sas62 said:

smn159 said:

It's more to do with;
a decline in intellectual curiosity,
a reduction in the ability to process information, leading to seeing issues as black and white, and tending to pre-judge based on scant evidence;
A reduced tolerance of any change

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/mr-persona...

Quoting ...

The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed and won’t be until age 25 or so.

In fact, recent research has found that adult and teen brains work differently. Adults think with the prefrontal cortex, the brain’s rational part. This is the part of the brain that responds to situations with good judgment and an awareness of long-term consequences. Teens process information with the amygdala. This is the emotional part.

In teen’s brains, the connections between the emotional part of the brain and the decision-making centre are still developing—and not always at the same rate. That’s why when teens have overwhelming emotional input, they can’t explain later what they were thinking. They weren’t thinking as much as they were feeling.

www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?C...

So what’s your point? Most teens aren’t eligible to vote anyway

[sas62]

smn159 said:

sas62 said:

smn159 said:

It's more to do with;
a decline in intellectual curiosity,
a reduction in the ability to process information, leading to seeing issues as black and white, and tending to pre-judge based on scant evidence;
A reduced tolerance of any change

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/mr-persona...

Quoting ...

The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed and won’t be until age 25 or so.

In fact, recent research has found that adult and teen brains work differently. Adults think with the prefrontal cortex, the brain’s rational part. This is the part of the brain that responds to situations with good judgment and an awareness of long-term consequences. Teens process information with the amygdala. This is the emotional part.

In teen’s brains, the connections between the emotional part of the brain and the decision-making centre are still developing—and not always at the same rate. That’s why when teens have overwhelming emotional input, they can’t explain later what they were thinking. They weren’t thinking as much as they were feeling.

www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?C...

So what’s your point? Most teens aren’t eligible to vote anyway

Did you even read it ^^^^^ ?

Ironic that you are accusing older people of having a reduced ability to process information

[vonuber]

Why does Farage always do photo ops in a pub with a pint.
Its not even usually a Wetherspoons, which I could understand.

[TTwiggy]

vonuber said:

Why does Farage always do photo ops in a pub with a pint.
Its not even usually a Wetherspoons, which I could understand.

Man of the people squire! School of Hard Knocks and University of Life!

[Vanden Saab]

vonuber said:

Why does Farage always do photo ops in a pub with a pint.
Its not even usually a Wetherspoons, which I could understand.

For the same reason Teresa May is seen out walking through wheat fields

[Lannister902]

vonuber said:

Why does Farage always do photo ops in a pub with a pint.
Its not even usually a Wetherspoons, which I could understand.

Old, dark, smelly pubs with vast majority of friends/followers being the age of 40+? .

He's merely appealing to his target audience.

[Mothersruin]

Lannister902 said:

vonuber said:

Why does Farage always do photo ops in a pub with a pint.
Its not even usually a Wetherspoons, which I could understand.

Old, dark, smelly pubs with vast majority of friends/followers being the age of 40+? .

He's merely appealing to his target audience.

Surprised we don't see Corbyn in a brothel then.

[wc98]

sas62 said:

smn159 said:

sas62 said:

smn159 said:

It's more to do with;
a decline in intellectual curiosity,
a reduction in the ability to process information, leading to seeing issues as black and white, and tending to pre-judge based on scant evidence;
A reduced tolerance of any change

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/mr-persona...

Quoting ...

The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed and won’t be until age 25 or so.

In fact, recent research has found that adult and teen brains work differently. Adults think with the prefrontal cortex, the brain’s rational part. This is the part of the brain that responds to situations with good judgment and an awareness of long-term consequences. Teens process information with the amygdala. This is the emotional part.

In teen’s brains, the connections between the emotional part of the brain and the decision-making centre are still developing—and not always at the same rate. That’s why when teens have overwhelming emotional input, they can’t explain later what they were thinking. They weren’t thinking as much as they were feeling.

www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?C...

So what’s your point? Most teens aren’t eligible to vote anyway

Did you even read it ^^^^^ ?

Ironic that you are accusing older people of having a reduced ability to process information

[Randy Winkman]

sas62 said:

smn159 said:

sas62 said:

smn159 said:

It's more to do with;
a decline in intellectual curiosity,
a reduction in the ability to process information, leading to seeing issues as black and white, and tending to pre-judge based on scant evidence;
A reduced tolerance of any change

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/mr-persona...

Quoting ...

The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed and won’t be until age 25 or so.

In fact, recent research has found that adult and teen brains work differently. Adults think with the prefrontal cortex, the brain’s rational part. This is the part of the brain that responds to situations with good judgment and an awareness of long-term consequences. Teens process information with the amygdala. This is the emotional part.

In teen’s brains, the connections between the emotional part of the brain and the decision-making centre are still developing—and not always at the same rate. That’s why when teens have overwhelming emotional input, they can’t explain later what they were thinking. They weren’t thinking as much as they were feeling.

www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?C...

So what’s your point? Most teens aren’t eligible to vote anyway

Did you even read it ^^^^^ ?

Ironic that you are accusing older people of having a reduced ability to process information

But isn't that true as well?