45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

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ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

153 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Zod said:
gooner1 said:
Tartan Pixie said:
You can look at what Europe is doing with the Iran deal as similar to the original petrodollar recycling agreement signed by Nixon (which ironically is the very thing the deal was designed to prevent but then Trump came along). The petrodollar itself is not a huge part of the American economy but its existence deepens capital markets, cheapens debt, etc. If oil sold in euros has access to European banks and America is cut off from oversight of those euros then said euros are going to end up sloshing about in European capital markets.

This creates a major divergence in national interest between the EU and USA which continued this month with SWIFT's announcement that it was going to comply with American sanctions which the EU politely called regrettable. If SWIFT goes so does American oversight of the global banking system.

If European and American financial interests continue to diverge and their arms procurement continue to diverge then we have the ingredients required for two distinct and opposing power blocks. As a UK citizen this is somewhat concerning to me.

It's in Turkey's interest to crack this dam of American hegemony open because if they can place themselves as a conduit for goods and financial services between the middle east and Europe it's not only lucrative but gives them the ability to detach themselves from American money and arms where appropriate. This fits perfectly with Turkey's geostrategic position which relies on playing great powers off against one another in order not to be dominated by any one of them.

The Saudis see these changing winds and are not only pursuing rapprochement with Syria but also exploring an end to OPEC. Saudi politics is clear as mud to me so I'm not putting weight on either of those links until I see facts on the ground but it's enough to say that for the world of geopolitics events are moving a danm sight faster than most of us realise.
Does the above bring the inclusion of Turkey into the EU ever closer?
No. It will never happen. Erdogan doesn’t want it. Germany and France would veto it.
B-b-b-b-but Turkey IS joining the EU, it said so on a poster and everything!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/21/v...

Byker28i

61,775 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Boydie claims Tucker Carlsons home was attacked - seems it isn't the first time the the Fox News presenter has over egged an incident


Byker28i

61,775 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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video of the incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzP5zWzSqXs

Avenatti is now representing the alleged assault on a gay latino immigrant committed by T. Carlson

Boydie88

3,283 posts

151 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Byker28i said:
Boydie claims Tucker Carlsons home was attacked - seems it isn't the first time the the Fox News presenter has over egged an incident
Lies fella, not attacked.

If a group standing outside your house singing "we will fight, we know where you sleep at night" isn't classed as intimidating I'd be interested to see how you'd feel about a loved one being subject to it. Any reasonable person knows this group went too far and if it is intimidation, well...

terrorism
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noun
noun: terrorism
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Sounds like we're getting pretty close to that.

essayer

9,140 posts

196 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Boydie88 said:
Lies fella, not attacked.

If a group standing outside your house singing "we will fight, we know where you sleep at night" isn't classed as intimidating I'd be interested to see how you'd feel about a loved one being subject to it. Any reasonable person knows this group went too far and if it is intimidation, well...

terrorism
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noun
noun: terrorism
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Sounds like we're getting pretty close to that.
And in Tucker Carlson's case, it's fully deserved. Hopefully it scares him off the air and into retirement.


Gibbo998

307 posts

114 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
In the rough again Donald !! You will need more club than that to get it out !

Boydie88

3,283 posts

151 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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essayer said:
And in Tucker Carlson's case, it's fully deserved. Hopefully it scares him off the air and into retirement.
Terrorism deserved. Nice. Sums up perfectly the unhinged insanity of the current left.

The guy is just about right of centre.

Byker28i

61,775 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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essayer said:
Boydie88 said:
Lies fella, not attacked.

If a group standing outside your house singing "we will fight, we know where you sleep at night" isn't classed as intimidating I'd be interested to see how you'd feel about a loved one being subject to it. Any reasonable person knows this group went too far and if it is intimidation, well...

terrorism
/?t?r?r?z?m/Submit
noun
noun: terrorism
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Sounds like we're getting pretty close to that.
And in Tucker Carlson's case, it's fully deserved. Hopefully it scares him off the air and into retirement.
And yet the police report says nothing like that happened, yet the video of Carlson shows him doing exactly that to a gay latino in a restaurant.
You can't have it both ways...

Carlson also over egged what happened there, completely misreporting it ...

Boydie88

3,283 posts

151 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Byker28i said:
And yet the police report says nothing like that happened, yet the video of Carlson shows him doing exactly that to a gay latino in a restaurant.
You can't have it both ways...

Carlson also over egged what happened there, completely misreporting it ...
Literal video evidence of the chant outside his house.

Where as the video of him shows him telling someone to fk off with two different accounts of what led to it. I do notice your alleged victim offers no explanation of how it led to that scenario. Guess we will find out how truthful either party is when he pursues it.

Again, any reasonable person sees this. You're insane.

Edited by Boydie88 on Tuesday 13th November 14:27

Tallow

1,624 posts

163 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Boydie88 said:
Terrorism deserved. Nice. Sums up perfectly the unhinged insanity of the current left.

The guy is just about right of centre.
I don't think anyone should be threatening violence towards anyone else, be it left or right but seriously... Terrorism? Carlson is just about centre right?
Have a word with yourself, you're living in a dream world.

Boydie88

3,283 posts

151 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Tallow said:
I don't think anyone should be threatening violence towards anyone else, be it left or right but seriously... Terrorism? Carlson is just about centre right?
Have a word with yourself, you're living in a dream world.
I posted the definition. It's pretty close to fitting. If it isn't politically motivated intimidation, what is it?

Ok, just how 'far right' is this TV host? With evidence please? He just seems like a regular American conservative to a neutral.

Byker28i

61,775 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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This could be interesting
The state of Maryland will ask a federal judge today for an order declaring that Rod Rosenstein is the acting attorney general — not Matt Whitaker
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-departmen...

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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A lot of the I don't support Trump but... People often ask why do people care he is not our politician.

To turn that round - who gives a fk about this bloke. Some American TV reporter gets caught in the crossfire in the st show that is partisan US politics.

Who gives a st.

Byker28i

61,775 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Boydie88 said:
Byker28i said:
And yet the police report says nothing like that happened, yet the video of Carlson shows him doing exactly that to a gay latino in a restaurant.
You can't have it both ways...

Carlson also over egged what happened there, completely misreporting it ...
Literal video evidence of the chant outside his house.

Where as the video of him shows him telling someone to fk off with two different accounts of what led to it. I do notice your alleged victim offers no explanation of how it led to that scenario. Guess we will find out how truthful either party is when he pursues it.

Again, any reasonable person sees this. You're insane.

Edited by Boydie88 on Tuesday 13th November 14:27
I'm insane for pointing out how Carlson lied, made more out of it than what happened, then showed where he did exactly the same himself.
You keep those trumpette blinkers on...

Carlson embellished his stories to promote the fear that the GOP have been pushing... It also makes for a great Fox story

https://thinkprogress.org/i-was-at-the-protest-out...

Carlsons statement of the restaurant incident has been disproven by witnesses now come forward
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/106175925...


Byker28i

61,775 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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CNN are suing trump and the White House over Acosta

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/13/media/cnn-sues-...

Boydie88

3,283 posts

151 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Byker28i said:
I'm insane for pointing out how Carlson lied, made more out of it than what happened, then showed where he did exactly the same himself.
You keep those trumpette blinkers on...

Carlson embellished his stories to promote the fear that the GOP have been pushing... It also makes for a great Fox story

https://thinkprogress.org/i-was-at-the-protest-out...

Carlsons statement of the restaurant incident has been disproven by witnesses now come forward
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/106175925...
No mate. You've linked to the victims statement... because no victims have lied before? Why haven't they said how the situation started? As I said, we'll see when it proceeds. If it has gone down as your victim suggests I hope he is charged.

I'm not saying he didn't lie about house damage, you lied and made it up I did.. ironic in a post so anti lying.

There is video of what happened, it's that simple. A group intent on intimidating occupants of a house, if you don't see this as wrong you're beyond help.

Byker28i

61,775 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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The donalds having a twitter moment about Macron and the french this morning

Edit - with link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-cite...

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 13th November 15:27

Butter Face

30,653 posts

162 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Byker28i said:
The donalds having a twitter moment about Macron and the french this morning
He really knows how to make friends rofl

Byker28i

61,775 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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Ah - that might explain it

Media has begun to set up cameras and equipment outside of the federal courthouse in Washington, D.C. They have been told a grand jury will convene shortly associated with the Mueller investigation. Cohen is in town with lawyers

Bob Mueller has convened a Grand Jury today after 8 of his attorneys worked yesterday meetin' with Michael Cohen. It appears Cohen will be the guest star today and more indictments are imminent!

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/41638...

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

79 months

Tuesday 13th November 2018
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ElectricSoup said:
B-b-b-b-but Turkey IS joining the EU, it said so on a poster and everything!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/21/v...
Don't worry, you can send in the EU Army to rip them all down, you know the Army that nobody was planning.
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