45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 9)
Discussion
Electro1980 said:
amusingduck said:
I began actively trying to avoid this stuff 2+ years ago, it's impossible! IIRC the tipping point was some small-scale (in relative trump terms) f
k up that was blown up all over the media. I decided to look into the actual event for a change, and it turned out that, basically, they'd taken a small story (trump scale) which was genuine, and turned it into a larger story that was not. At that point, I decided I was out.
That's why I think they've poorly wielded their 'Trump' card (stop groaning in the back). If every day is Trump Bad, none of them are. Why listen to today's story when there'll be another tomorrow?
Ignorance does help put you in tune with the average American though
So your argument is that Dems are going to loose by pointing out how much of a sk up that was blown up all over the media. I decided to look into the actual event for a change, and it turned out that, basically, they'd taken a small story (trump scale) which was genuine, and turned it into a larger story that was not. At that point, I decided I was out. That's why I think they've poorly wielded their 'Trump' card (stop groaning in the back). If every day is Trump Bad, none of them are. Why listen to today's story when there'll be another tomorrow?
Ignorance does help put you in tune with the average American though
t show everything Trump does is, and that this is bad because Trump does so much st stuff that bringing it up is meaningless?If you think Dems are going to loose you haven’t looked at the current polling or reaction to Trump in the US. Republican politicians are saying to vote Dem. Biden is WAY ahead. The risk at the moment is that the Dems won’t take the senate too meaning the evil little turtle will obstruct everything the Biden government does and then scream “look! Rubbish Dems doing nothing”.
Also, Duck, I see you... erm... ducked my question. What policies has Trump unveiled to help the US?
I'll help you out, COVID 19, with 8 million Americans infected this is the hot issue of the times, what is Trumps plan to deal with COVID 19 if re-elected?
Biden has already released his plan.
Edited by captain_cynic on Monday 19th October 23:09
_dobbo_ said:
pinchmeimdreamin said:
The Orwell thread really is turning into comedy gold 
Handing out Byker alternatives now
It's wonderful isn't it?Handing out Byker alternatives now
Has anyone else noticed as the election day looms closer that certain posters are more prolific and more shrill in their definitely not Trump supporter posts?
It's going to be hard to tell the genuine idiots from the paid ones... posting this in the spirit of the Orwell thread
George_Orwell said:
Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
I'd be interested to know how many other UK MPs openly support Trump.
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/131210799...
You'd think Biden would be more aligned with UK Conservatives and Trump a bit too far right (and embarrassing) for most to support wouldn't you?
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/131210799...
You'd think Biden would be more aligned with UK Conservatives and Trump a bit too far right (and embarrassing) for most to support wouldn't you?
Byker28i said:
According to one of the sources with direct knowledge, the president is already contemplating retribution.
“[The president] said something to the effect of: If you’re backing away from him now, don’t bother coming back for a favor when he wins,” the other source said. “He made a comment about how there are some people out there who you can only count on when things are going your way.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-taking-down-n...
The most obvious being the one Donald sees in the mirror every morning as he has that nuclear waste painted on his face.“[The president] said something to the effect of: If you’re backing away from him now, don’t bother coming back for a favor when he wins,” the other source said. “He made a comment about how there are some people out there who you can only count on when things are going your way.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-taking-down-n...
thetapeworm said:
I'd be interested to know how many other UK MPs openly support Trump.
https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/131210799...
You'd think Biden would be more aligned with UK Conservatives and Trump a bit too far right (and embarrassing) for most to support wouldn't you?
Brexiter, they need Trump for that trade deal. https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/131210799...
You'd think Biden would be more aligned with UK Conservatives and Trump a bit too far right (and embarrassing) for most to support wouldn't you?
Electro1980 said:
amusingduck said:
I began actively trying to avoid this stuff 2+ years ago, it's impossible! IIRC the tipping point was some small-scale (in relative trump terms) fk up that was blown up all over the media. I decided to look into the actual event for a change, and it turned out that, basically, they'd taken a small story (trump scale) which was genuine, and turned it into a larger story that was not. At that point, I decided I was out.
That's why I think they've poorly wielded their 'Trump' card (stop groaning in the back). If every day is Trump Bad, none of them are. Why listen to today's story when there'll be another tomorrow?
Ignorance does help put you in tune with the average American though
So your argument is that Dems are going to loose by pointing out how much of a sk up that was blown up all over the media. I decided to look into the actual event for a change, and it turned out that, basically, they'd taken a small story (trump scale) which was genuine, and turned it into a larger story that was not. At that point, I decided I was out. That's why I think they've poorly wielded their 'Trump' card (stop groaning in the back). If every day is Trump Bad, none of them are. Why listen to today's story when there'll be another tomorrow?
Ignorance does help put you in tune with the average American though
t show everything Trump does is, and that this is bad because Trump does so much st stuff that bringing it up is meaningless?If you think Dems are going to loose you haven’t looked at the current polling or reaction to Trump in the US. Republican politicians are saying to vote Dem. Biden is WAY ahead. The risk at the moment is that the Dems won’t take the senate too meaning the evil little turtle will obstruct everything the Biden government does and then scream “look! Rubbish Dems doing nothing”.
We also don't know fully what other voter suppression tactics trump has planned. We've seen a lot already, whats hidden?
paulguitar said:
_dobbo_ said:
pinchmeimdreamin said:
The Orwell thread really is turning into comedy gold
Handing out Byker alternatives now
It's wonderful isn't it?Handing out Byker alternatives now
Has anyone else noticed as the election day looms closer that certain posters are more prolific and more shrill in their definitely not Trump supporter posts?
I can't really be bothered in there. It's all distraction for trump away fom what he's done, as usual.
Remember, they are trying to claim Hunter Biden made money for Biden - yet unlike trump Biden has released all his tax returns for ten years
They are trying to claim that Hunter Biden used his position as son of Biden, ignoring that trump and trumps children have used the WH for personal and company profiteering.
How bad does it have to be when they try to use personal texts showing Biden being a supportive and forgiving father to his son? I know thats a strange concept to trumps children, but many american families have suffered from a family member with addiction
"JoeBiden recalling the final moments of his son’s life are soul-crushing. Trump views qualities like empathy, compassion, and the capacity to face and express real grief, emotion, & loss as weaknesses. "
https://twitter.com/i/status/1318252641168797696
Edit: More than 50 former senior intelligence officials, including ex-Trump admin officials like Russ Travers, have signed on to a letter outlining their belief that the Biden emails saga “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation”
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-bi...
Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 20th October 06:13
Speaking of voter suppression
Texas can reject mail-in ballots over mismatched signatures without giving voters a chance to appeal, the U.S. Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled.
If they decide the signature on the ballot can't be verified, Texas election officials may continue rejecting mail-in ballots without notifying voters until after the election that their ballot wasn't counted, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Monday.
The appeals court halted a lower court’s injunction, which had not gone into effect, that would have required the Texas secretary of state to either advise local election officials that mail-in ballots may not be rejected using the existing signature-comparison process, or require them to set up a notification system giving voters a chance to challenge a rejection while their vote still counts.
Requiring such a process would compromise the integrity of the mail-in ballots “as Texas officials are preparing for a dramatic increase of mail-in voting, driven by a global pandemic,” reads the Monday opinion issued by Judge Jerry E. Smith.
“Texas’s strong interest in safeguarding the integrity of its elections from voter fraud far outweighs any burden the state’s voting procedures place on the right to vote,” Smith wrote.
Voting in Texas
Before mail-in ballots are counted, a committee of local election officials reviews them to ensure that a voter’s endorsement on the flap of a ballot envelope matches the signature that voter used on their application to vote by mail. They can also compare it to signatures on file with the county clerk or voter registrar that were made within the last six years.
The state election code does not establish any standards for signature review, which is conducted by local election officials who seldom have training in signature verification.
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/19/texas-mail...
However North Carolina voters whose absentee ballots have problems with their envelopes can now expect contact from board of elections offices in order to fix their ballots by Election Day.
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-go...
Texas can reject mail-in ballots over mismatched signatures without giving voters a chance to appeal, the U.S. Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled.
If they decide the signature on the ballot can't be verified, Texas election officials may continue rejecting mail-in ballots without notifying voters until after the election that their ballot wasn't counted, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Monday.
The appeals court halted a lower court’s injunction, which had not gone into effect, that would have required the Texas secretary of state to either advise local election officials that mail-in ballots may not be rejected using the existing signature-comparison process, or require them to set up a notification system giving voters a chance to challenge a rejection while their vote still counts.
Requiring such a process would compromise the integrity of the mail-in ballots “as Texas officials are preparing for a dramatic increase of mail-in voting, driven by a global pandemic,” reads the Monday opinion issued by Judge Jerry E. Smith.
“Texas’s strong interest in safeguarding the integrity of its elections from voter fraud far outweighs any burden the state’s voting procedures place on the right to vote,” Smith wrote.
Voting in Texas
Before mail-in ballots are counted, a committee of local election officials reviews them to ensure that a voter’s endorsement on the flap of a ballot envelope matches the signature that voter used on their application to vote by mail. They can also compare it to signatures on file with the county clerk or voter registrar that were made within the last six years.
The state election code does not establish any standards for signature review, which is conducted by local election officials who seldom have training in signature verification.
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/19/texas-mail...
However North Carolina voters whose absentee ballots have problems with their envelopes can now expect contact from board of elections offices in order to fix their ballots by Election Day.
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-go...
Remember the FoxxConn deal that was going to create thousands of jobs
The Trump-touted electronic manufacturing complex promised by Foxconn in Wisconsin did not meet its requirements to operate.
Foxconn has now received a permit to convert the facilities into storage. Tens of thousands of promised jobs never materialized.
https://www.theverge.com/21509874/behind-foxconn
The Trump-touted electronic manufacturing complex promised by Foxconn in Wisconsin did not meet its requirements to operate.
Foxconn has now received a permit to convert the facilities into storage. Tens of thousands of promised jobs never materialized.
https://www.theverge.com/21509874/behind-foxconn
The Justice Department is claiming that Trump should not be sued personally for having denied a rape allegation because he made the statement while acting in his official capacity as president.
Lawyers for the government made the argument as they defended Attorney General William P. Barr’s decision to intervene in a defamation lawsuit filed in a New York court against President Trump by E. Jean Carroll, the writer.
Ms. Carroll has said that Mr. Trump raped her in a department store two decades ago and then falsely denied the attack while in office, branding her a liar and harming her reputation.
But Justice Department lawyers say that even though the allegation concerns an incident that occurred decades before Mr. Trump became president, his denial was still an official act because he “addressed matters relating to his fitness for office as part of an official White House response to press inquiries.”
“Given the president’s position in our constitutional structure, his role in communicating with the public is especially significant,” the Justice Department wrote, adding, “The president’s statements fall within the scope of his employment for multiple reasons.”
On Sept. 8, the Justice Department took the highly unusual step of seeking to intervene on Mr. Trump’s behalf even though the lawsuit concerns a claim of defamation stemming from an event that allegedly occurred in the 1990s, long before Mr. Trump became president.
Using a law designed to protect federal employees from defamation suits when they perform their duties, Mr. Barr sought to transfer the lawsuit from state court to Federal District Court in Manhattan and to substitute the federal government for Mr. Trump as the defendant.
That maneuver, if approved by a judge, would have the practical effect of dismissing Ms. Carroll’s lawsuit because government employees enjoy immunity from most defamation claims.
Earlier this month, Ms. Carroll’s lawyers attacked the effort in court papers, asking a federal judge, Lewis A. Kaplan, to reject it.
“There is not a single person in the United States — not the president and not anyone else — whose job description includes slandering women they sexually assaulted,” Ms. Carroll’s lawyers wrote.
In its filing on Monday, however, the Justice Department argued that Mr. Trump had not slandered Ms. Carroll but merely rebutted her allegations. That fell within the scope of his official role as president, the department said, because a claim of rape — even a false one — could have an impact on his job.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/nyregion/jean-c...
Lawyers for the government made the argument as they defended Attorney General William P. Barr’s decision to intervene in a defamation lawsuit filed in a New York court against President Trump by E. Jean Carroll, the writer.
Ms. Carroll has said that Mr. Trump raped her in a department store two decades ago and then falsely denied the attack while in office, branding her a liar and harming her reputation.
But Justice Department lawyers say that even though the allegation concerns an incident that occurred decades before Mr. Trump became president, his denial was still an official act because he “addressed matters relating to his fitness for office as part of an official White House response to press inquiries.”
“Given the president’s position in our constitutional structure, his role in communicating with the public is especially significant,” the Justice Department wrote, adding, “The president’s statements fall within the scope of his employment for multiple reasons.”
On Sept. 8, the Justice Department took the highly unusual step of seeking to intervene on Mr. Trump’s behalf even though the lawsuit concerns a claim of defamation stemming from an event that allegedly occurred in the 1990s, long before Mr. Trump became president.
Using a law designed to protect federal employees from defamation suits when they perform their duties, Mr. Barr sought to transfer the lawsuit from state court to Federal District Court in Manhattan and to substitute the federal government for Mr. Trump as the defendant.
That maneuver, if approved by a judge, would have the practical effect of dismissing Ms. Carroll’s lawsuit because government employees enjoy immunity from most defamation claims.
Earlier this month, Ms. Carroll’s lawyers attacked the effort in court papers, asking a federal judge, Lewis A. Kaplan, to reject it.
“There is not a single person in the United States — not the president and not anyone else — whose job description includes slandering women they sexually assaulted,” Ms. Carroll’s lawyers wrote.
In its filing on Monday, however, the Justice Department argued that Mr. Trump had not slandered Ms. Carroll but merely rebutted her allegations. That fell within the scope of his official role as president, the department said, because a claim of rape — even a false one — could have an impact on his job.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/nyregion/jean-c...
Remember that trump admin dismissed the plan to send masks to every household because trump doesn'tbelieve in masks.
Now we find out Trump coronavirus advisor Scott Atlas shot down attempts to expand testing. He openly feuded with other doctors on the COVID task force. He advanced fringe theories. And he advocated allowing infections to spread naturally among most of the population.
Atlas shot down attempts to expand testing. He openly feuded with other doctors on the coronavirus task force and succeeded in largely sidelining them. He advanced fringe theories, such as that social distancing and mask-wearing were meaningless and would not have changed the course of the virus in several hard-hit areas. And he advocated allowing infections to spread naturally among most of the population while protecting the most vulnerable and those in nursing homes until the United States reaches herd immunity, which experts say would cause excess deaths, according to three current and former senior administration officials.
Atlas also cultivated Trump’s affection with his public assertions that the pandemic is nearly over, despite death and infection counts showing otherwise, and his willingness to tell the public that a vaccine could be developed before the Nov. 3 election, despite clear indications of a slower timetable.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-den...
Now we find out Trump coronavirus advisor Scott Atlas shot down attempts to expand testing. He openly feuded with other doctors on the COVID task force. He advanced fringe theories. And he advocated allowing infections to spread naturally among most of the population.
Atlas shot down attempts to expand testing. He openly feuded with other doctors on the coronavirus task force and succeeded in largely sidelining them. He advanced fringe theories, such as that social distancing and mask-wearing were meaningless and would not have changed the course of the virus in several hard-hit areas. And he advocated allowing infections to spread naturally among most of the population while protecting the most vulnerable and those in nursing homes until the United States reaches herd immunity, which experts say would cause excess deaths, according to three current and former senior administration officials.
Atlas also cultivated Trump’s affection with his public assertions that the pandemic is nearly over, despite death and infection counts showing otherwise, and his willingness to tell the public that a vaccine could be developed before the Nov. 3 election, despite clear indications of a slower timetable.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-den...
Supreme Court DENIES Republican effort to block Pennsylvania Supreme Court's voting decision.
SCOTUS won’t disturb court order requiring Pennsylvania to accept absentee ballots received three days after Election Day, even if not postmarked. No. 20A53 & 20A54. Chief Justice Roberts joins the three liberal justices, causing a 4-to-4 split that allows the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling below to remain in place.
Edit: The lower court ruled that if the postmark on a mail-in ballot in Pennsylvania is illegible, that vote will count as long as it’s received within three days after Election Day.
SCOTUS won’t disturb court order requiring Pennsylvania to accept absentee ballots received three days after Election Day, even if not postmarked. No. 20A53 & 20A54. Chief Justice Roberts joins the three liberal justices, causing a 4-to-4 split that allows the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling below to remain in place.
Edit: The lower court ruled that if the postmark on a mail-in ballot in Pennsylvania is illegible, that vote will count as long as it’s received within three days after Election Day.
Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 20th October 07:13
Ghislaine Maxwell loses fight to keep her Jeffrey Epstein testimony sealed
A federal appeals court dealt Ghislaine Maxwell, the alleged madam to disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, twin blows late Monday by declining to consolidate her appeals in numerous overlapping cases and striking down her effort to thwart release of a controversial deposition she gave in a now-settled civil lawsuit.
The three-judge Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit held more than two hours of oral arguments last week, and issued a succinct Monday afternoon order holding that a lower court judge did not err in ordering the release of a 418-page deposition from April 2016 that could shed new light on the Epstein empire.
“We have reviewed all of the arguments raised by Defendant-Appellant Maxwell on appeal and find them to be without merit,” the judges wrote, also turning away a request for consolidation with Maxwell’s criminal case in the Southern District of New York. “We DENY the motion to consolidate this appeal with the pending appeal in United States v. Maxwell.”
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/art...
Edit: Actually is this going to be the smoking gun for trump? Will Maxwells testimony be released soon, before the election?
Remember, Jeffrey Epstein recruited Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago. trump is no doubt mentioned. He's known him for a long time.
This picture was doing the rounds this weekend of trump and his children with Epstein
A federal appeals court dealt Ghislaine Maxwell, the alleged madam to disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, twin blows late Monday by declining to consolidate her appeals in numerous overlapping cases and striking down her effort to thwart release of a controversial deposition she gave in a now-settled civil lawsuit.
The three-judge Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit held more than two hours of oral arguments last week, and issued a succinct Monday afternoon order holding that a lower court judge did not err in ordering the release of a 418-page deposition from April 2016 that could shed new light on the Epstein empire.
“We have reviewed all of the arguments raised by Defendant-Appellant Maxwell on appeal and find them to be without merit,” the judges wrote, also turning away a request for consolidation with Maxwell’s criminal case in the Southern District of New York. “We DENY the motion to consolidate this appeal with the pending appeal in United States v. Maxwell.”
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/art...
Edit: Actually is this going to be the smoking gun for trump? Will Maxwells testimony be released soon, before the election?
Remember, Jeffrey Epstein recruited Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago. trump is no doubt mentioned. He's known him for a long time.
This picture was doing the rounds this weekend of trump and his children with Epstein
Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 20th October 07:17
The Rotrex Kid said:
And you’re a criminal, and he’s a criminal, and you’re a criminal..... etc etc
https://mobile.twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/1...
What a nutcase.
Same herehttps://mobile.twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/1...
What a nutcase.
"You're a criminal for not reporting it. You are a criminal for not reporting it." -- Trump calls @jeffmason1 "a criminal" for not reporting on Hunter Biden's emails
https://twitter.com/i/status/1318263530517385220
Today is the voter registration deadline in Pennsylvania, but some first-time voters are having trouble registering online. Their apps are getting rejected and they're being told to mail their forms or submit in person
Elections officials in Pennsylvania are being inundated with complaints from first-time and absentee voters having difficulty registering to vote or requesting a mail ballot, fueling anxiety in the critical swing state just as the 5 p.m. Monday deadline approaches to join the voting rolls in time for the November election.
College students in at least three counties in Pennsylvania who attempted to register to vote online had their applications rejected and were notified that they must provide documentation in person or by mail to meet the Monday deadline, raising concerns among voting rights advocates that an unknown number of students may not be able to register in time.
Meanwhile, other voters are receiving rejection notices for their absentee ballot requests without a clear explanation. County officials said the vast majority of these rejections were due to duplicate requests. The voters had already requested a general election ballot when they were applying to vote by mail for the primary election, so they didn’t need to request one again for the fall.
These challenges come as Pennsylvania, one of the most closely watched states for the November election, grapples with heightened voter interest in a year it is for the first time allowing anyone to vote by mail in a general election. A law enacted this year eliminated the requirement that voters wanting to cast ballots by mail provide an acceptable excuse.
But the new law comes as voters are grappling with problems with the U.S. Postal Service and the chaos around the pandemic. These factors have heightened the stakes for mail-in voting, as voters are increasingly opting to register online or cast their ballots by mail to avoid potential mail delays or exposure to the novel coronavirus at the polls.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/voter-conf...
Looks like the USPS disruptions are having effect
Elections officials in Pennsylvania are being inundated with complaints from first-time and absentee voters having difficulty registering to vote or requesting a mail ballot, fueling anxiety in the critical swing state just as the 5 p.m. Monday deadline approaches to join the voting rolls in time for the November election.
College students in at least three counties in Pennsylvania who attempted to register to vote online had their applications rejected and were notified that they must provide documentation in person or by mail to meet the Monday deadline, raising concerns among voting rights advocates that an unknown number of students may not be able to register in time.
Meanwhile, other voters are receiving rejection notices for their absentee ballot requests without a clear explanation. County officials said the vast majority of these rejections were due to duplicate requests. The voters had already requested a general election ballot when they were applying to vote by mail for the primary election, so they didn’t need to request one again for the fall.
These challenges come as Pennsylvania, one of the most closely watched states for the November election, grapples with heightened voter interest in a year it is for the first time allowing anyone to vote by mail in a general election. A law enacted this year eliminated the requirement that voters wanting to cast ballots by mail provide an acceptable excuse.
But the new law comes as voters are grappling with problems with the U.S. Postal Service and the chaos around the pandemic. These factors have heightened the stakes for mail-in voting, as voters are increasingly opting to register online or cast their ballots by mail to avoid potential mail delays or exposure to the novel coronavirus at the polls.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/voter-conf...
Looks like the USPS disruptions are having effect
Byker28i said:
It's amazing when the CEO of a major company has to tell the world that trump never called him...
ExxonMobil
@exxonmobil
We are aware of the President’s statement regarding a hypothetical call with our CEO…and just so we’re all clear, it never happened.
Yeah but, no but his emails!ExxonMobil
@exxonmobil
We are aware of the President’s statement regarding a hypothetical call with our CEO…and just so we’re all clear, it never happened.
Amazing!
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