45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 9)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 9)

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Byker28i

60,770 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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More unpaid bills...

Donald Trump’s campaign wants Omarosa Manigault Newman to pay up for penning an incriminating tell-all book about the president in 2018. But it’s the Trump campaign that hasn’t paid its bills.

The delinquent $52,000 payment — revealed in a previously unreported letter dated Oct. 14 and obtained by POLITICO — is just one example of how the Trump campaign is handling the flurry of legal actions it has taken to both protect the president and attack his enemies in the final weeks of the campaign.

In the action against Manigault Newman, the campaign may simply let the case dissolve. In 2018, the Trump campaign filed an arbitration case against the former West Wing aide over her book, which rocked the White House with stories of Trump using lewd, sexist and racist language. At one point, Trump’s attorneys suggested Newman pay for a nearly $1 million ad campaign “to counteract the long-term adverse effects” of her remarks.

Yet the campaign has thus far stiffed the arbitrator assigned to mediate the case, according to a letter sent to the parties in the case. If Trump’s attorneys don’t pay the outstanding bill by next week, the case could be tossed out.

The dispute over Manigault Newman’s book is far from the only legal thread left dangling for the Trump campaign.

The campaign is helping fight accusations Trump harassed and sexually assaulted women. It’s helping keep documents about his business deals hidden. Other cases are proactive, such as attempts to enforce nondisclosure agreements and to punish media companies the campaign accuses of defamation. And it is responding to lawsuits from people who say they were assaulted at Trump events, including one from a Missouri man who claimed he was arrested after laughing at a MAGA rally.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/20/trumps-ca...

It’s not the first time Trump, a businessman with a global real estate footprint, and his campaign have faced accusations that they didn’t pay the bills.

Private contractors, bartenders, painters, real estate brokers and others have all claimed that Trump didn’t adequately compensate them for their work before he was sworn into office. More recently, Trump has been accused of failing to pay local officials who provide thousands of dollars’ in security assistance to the president’s campaign during rallies.

Halmyre

11,263 posts

140 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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thetapeworm said:
I'd be interested to know how many other UK MPs openly support Trump.

https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/131210799...



You'd think Biden would be more aligned with UK Conservatives and Trump a bit too far right (and embarrassing) for most to support wouldn't you?
More concerned with winding up 'the left' than in the state of Trump's health, possibly.

Byker28i

60,770 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Biden Will Make America Lead Again
We need a president with decency and a sense of respect.

Ret. Adm. William McRaven: "Truth be told, I am a pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, small-government, strong-defense and a national-anthem-standing conservative ... I voted for Joe Biden."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-will-make-ameri...

Since that is paywalled
Retired Adm. William McRaven, a former US Navy SEAL commander who served as the head of US Special Operations Command, wrote an op-ed article in The Wall Street Journal on Monday in which he said he voted for Joe Biden.

McRaven described himself as a "pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, small-government, strong-defense and a national-anthem-standing conservative" but said the US was no longer a country that set an example of democracy.

While McRaven aligned himself with those conservative ideals, he also said "we need a president for all Americans, not just half of America," adding: "I also believe that black lives matter, that the Dreamers deserve a path to citizenship, that diversity and inclusion are essential to our national success, that education is the great equalizer, that climate change is real and that the First Amendment is the cornerstone of our democracy."
https://www.businessinsider.com/navy-seal-voted-fo...

Old Man Fred

821 posts

90 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Byker28i said:
More unpaid bills...

Donald Trump’s campaign wants Omarosa Manigault Newman to pay up for penning an incriminating tell-all book about the president in 2018. But it’s the Trump campaign that hasn’t paid its bills.

The delinquent $52,000 payment — revealed in a previously unreported letter dated Oct. 14 and obtained by POLITICO — is just one example of how the Trump campaign is handling the flurry of legal actions it has taken to both protect the president and attack his enemies in the final weeks of the campaign.

In the action against Manigault Newman, the campaign may simply let the case dissolve. In 2018, the Trump campaign filed an arbitration case against the former West Wing aide over her book, which rocked the White House with stories of Trump using lewd, sexist and racist language. At one point, Trump’s attorneys suggested Newman pay for a nearly $1 million ad campaign “to counteract the long-term adverse effects” of her remarks.

Yet the campaign has thus far stiffed the arbitrator assigned to mediate the case, according to a letter sent to the parties in the case. If Trump’s attorneys don’t pay the outstanding bill by next week, the case could be tossed out.

The dispute over Manigault Newman’s book is far from the only legal thread left dangling for the Trump campaign.

The campaign is helping fight accusations Trump harassed and sexually assaulted women. It’s helping keep documents about his business deals hidden. Other cases are proactive, such as attempts to enforce nondisclosure agreements and to punish media companies the campaign accuses of defamation. And it is responding to lawsuits from people who say they were assaulted at Trump events, including one from a Missouri man who claimed he was arrested after laughing at a MAGA rally.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/20/trumps-ca...

It’s not the first time Trump, a businessman with a global real estate footprint, and his campaign have faced accusations that they didn’t pay the bills.

Private contractors, bartenders, painters, real estate brokers and others have all claimed that Trump didn’t adequately compensate them for their work before he was sworn into office. More recently, Trump has been accused of failing to pay local officials who provide thousands of dollars’ in security assistance to the president’s campaign during rallies.
Even if he did continue the law suit if its anything like 99% of his others he wont win. He just filed it at the time the book came out for show and to try and cast some doubt on it. He must have hundreds of law suits against him i am sure he will let a majority 'time out' or equivalent

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Countdown said:
Max_Torque said:
thetapeworm said:
I'd be interested to know how many other UK MPs openly support Trump.

https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/131210799...



You'd think Biden would be more aligned with UK Conservatives and Trump a bit too far right (and embarrassing) for most to support wouldn't you?
After all this time with Trump as the President, the one thing i genuinly can't understand is why any woman would support him in anyway? I mean, does one have to be actually raped or sexually assaulted in order to understand that ANY encouragement of men to treat women like objects and to boast about how they assault them, is reversing years of hard work and education in granting women equal rights as men?

I'm far from any kind of feminist, but surely, a woman should be also to see what they are encouraging no????
A lot of women seem to find him sexually attractive.

vomit
Ok, so they fancy a tangerine (or more accurately they fancy a rich, powerful man) but that does not change the fact that that man's actions mean they are more likely to be sexually assaulted, not just by a rich and powerful man, but by any man. Surely that's not hard to realise?


Byker28i

60,770 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Post-ABC poll: Trump and Biden are in a dead heat in North Carolina

President Trump and former vice president Joe Biden are running in a dead heat in North Carolina, with the economy buoying the president’s candidacy and the coronavirus pandemic boosting his challenger in one of the key electoral targets in November, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll.

The poll finds Biden at 49 percent and Trump at 48 percent among likely voters, with two third-party candidates — Libertarian nominee Jo Jorgensen and Green Party nominee Howie Hawkins — accounting for just 1 percent of the vote. among registered voters, Biden is at 48 percent, Trump at 46 percent and the third-party candidates a combined 3 percent.

North Carolina is one of two Southern battlegrounds, along with Florida, that the president won in 2016 and that are crucial to his efforts to secure an electoral college majority in two weeks. Four years ago, he won North Carolina by four percentage points, and without its 15 electoral votes this year, his path to victory would become significantly more difficult.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/20...


Further bad news for trump has biden drawn in Florida
FLORIDA
Biden 48% (+1)
Trump 47%
University of North Florida, LV, 10/12-16
https://www.unf.edu/uploadedFiles/aa/coas/porl/FLF...

OzzyR1

5,752 posts

233 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Bill said:
Byker28i said:
It's amazing when the CEO of a major company has to tell the world that trump never called him...

ExxonMobil
@exxonmobil
We are aware of the President’s statement regarding a hypothetical call with our CEO…and just so we’re all clear, it never happened.
Yeah but, no but his emails!

Amazing!
To be fair to Trump, I don't believe that he claimed the call took place either.

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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OzzyR1 said:
To be fair to Trump, I don't believe that he claimed the call took place either.
Agreed. He was just being oafish about how easy (he claims) it would be to fill his campaign coffers if he DID ask.

It's nuance too far for many people and poor old Exxon panicked.

RDMcG

19,226 posts

208 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Former RNC speaks on a video released this morning:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uJ9p6-Ubec

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Countdown said:
A lot of women seem to find him sexually attractive.

vomit
Well they will have no chance unless they are young and / or look like his daughter.

gregs656

10,936 posts

182 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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I also think the non-political criticism of Trump may be a failing strategy.

On the flip side I don’t think Trump has got the simple message he did last time to rely on. He has had to defend his own record this time and hasn’t done a great job.

The momentum from the last debate has ebbed and Trumps recovery will play well IMO.

If the Ghislaine Maxwell testimony is released soon that could be extremely bad news for Trump.

Halmyre

11,263 posts

140 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Max_Torque said:
Countdown said:
Max_Torque said:
thetapeworm said:
I'd be interested to know how many other UK MPs openly support Trump.

https://twitter.com/andreajenkyns/status/131210799...



You'd think Biden would be more aligned with UK Conservatives and Trump a bit too far right (and embarrassing) for most to support wouldn't you?
After all this time with Trump as the President, the one thing i genuinly can't understand is why any woman would support him in anyway? I mean, does one have to be actually raped or sexually assaulted in order to understand that ANY encouragement of men to treat women like objects and to boast about how they assault them, is reversing years of hard work and education in granting women equal rights as men?

I'm far from any kind of feminist, but surely, a woman should be also to see what they are encouraging no????
A lot of women seem to find him sexually attractive.

vomit
Ok, so they fancy a tangerine (or more accurately they fancy a rich, powerful man) but that does not change the fact that that man's actions mean they are more likely to be sexually assaulted, not just by a rich and powerful man, but by any man. Surely that's not hard to realise?
How they justify it:

"Those women are lying/asking for it/slags/wes/etc. I'm stronger than they are."

Actually, I can't get my head round it either.

Byker28i

60,770 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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gregs656 said:
I also think the non-political criticism of Trump may be a failing strategy.

On the flip side I don’t think Trump has got the simple message he did last time to rely on. He has had to defend his own record this time and hasn’t done a great job.

The momentum from the last debate has ebbed and Trumps recovery will play well IMO.

If the Ghislaine Maxwell testimony is released soon that could be extremely bad news for Trump.
I think many have made up their minds, certainly 30m have already voted
In 2016 there were 250m of voting age, with a 55% turnout, around 138m voted. I expect more this time as trump seems to have engaged people to vote, hopefully against him biggrin

The Ghislaine Maxwell testimony and any other dirt now may now come too late to have any effect as many rush to get their vote in early

Apparently republicans are more inclined to vote in person and later

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 20th October 14:57

Crafty_

13,302 posts

201 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Somewhat optimistic poll puts Biden ahead in Texas. https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-narrowly-leads-...

Has to be said that this is relying on which way the responders lean. If going by voter intention they reckon Trump has a 2 point lead.

USA Today endorses Biden, based on Trump's unsuitability for the role https://www.axios.com/usa-today-endorsement-joe-bi...

More here on Steele's endorsement too https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521789-ex-rn...

Electro1980

8,388 posts

140 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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gregs656 said:
I also think the non-political criticism of Trump may be a failing strategy.

On the flip side I don’t think Trump has got the simple message he did last time to rely on. He has had to defend his own record this time and hasn’t done a great job.

The momentum from the last debate has ebbed and Trumps recovery will play well IMO.

If the Ghislaine Maxwell testimony is released soon that could be extremely bad news for Trump.
Don’t forget, there is another debate on Thursday, and this time there will be a mute button. This could be fun.

Seanrof

280 posts

61 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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What are all you guys gonna do when Trump wins ?

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Electro1980 said:
Don’t forget, there is another debate on Thursday, and this time there will be a mute button. This could be fun.
Multiple hopefully, what's the working lifespan of a button? hehe


anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Seanrof said:
What are all you guys gonna do when Trump wins ?
Shrug and get on with my life. How bout you?

BlackTails

620 posts

56 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Seanrof said:
What are all you guys gonna do when Trump wins ?
Take it on the chin and not whine like a baby about a rigged election and "MSM" being horribly biased.

What are you going to do if Biden wins?

Byker28i

60,770 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Seanrof said:
What are all you guys gonna do when Trump wins ?
Much the same as we've done the last 4 years, discuss him. Why?
Plus even if he loses this thread will continue as everything comes out the woodwork, his court cases come forth...
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