Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party.
Discussion
Brooking10 said:
El stovey said:
Vanden Saab said:
4 main parties
All have problems with different phobias take your pick..
Who are the libdems getting accused of hating? All have problems with different phobias take your pick..
Because of that bloke who was leader and said things about gays.
The one who isn’t leader anymore and was roundly condemned and mocked by his colleagues.
Tony427 said:
Law of unintended concequences.
When Remainers decided to ignore the referendum and do all they could to frustrate the will of the majority because in their opinion they know better than the majority, they are cleverer, more just, more wordly wise, just "you know" better, they are putting themselves in the position of superiority over their less enlightened fellow citizens. There's a word for that.
It should hardly suprise people that when faced with an injustice the people that are disadvantage gravitate to extremes as has happened throughout history to combat that injustice, especially when the group carrying out that injustice are entrenched in the fabric of the political machinery, and have free use of all resources available to them.
In short as Remainers dont believe in playing by the rules, Leavers are playing the same game now. And there's more of them. 406/242.
This is why we have MP's squatting in the HoC, jumping ship from independence to the hopefully relative safety of any party that will have them, and all frightened to death of the political retribution coming their way because they asked for instruction and then once given failed to enact it.
Because they knew better.
Its not pretty from any vantage point, its going to get nasty, vindictive and generally unpleasant.
But who do we blame for that? Those that voted Leave and trusted the political classes to do the right thing, or the political classes who instead gave two fingers to their electorate.
Its just lucky that we can, eventually once the squatters are removed, do everything through the ballot box as elsewhere in the world the army would probably be moving in by now as neither the Government or the MP's of any persuasion have any legitimacy. If you have any doubt have a think about the Article 50 vote. And the last election. And the referendum before that.
Cheers,
Tony
Good rant, but....When Remainers decided to ignore the referendum and do all they could to frustrate the will of the majority because in their opinion they know better than the majority, they are cleverer, more just, more wordly wise, just "you know" better, they are putting themselves in the position of superiority over their less enlightened fellow citizens. There's a word for that.
It should hardly suprise people that when faced with an injustice the people that are disadvantage gravitate to extremes as has happened throughout history to combat that injustice, especially when the group carrying out that injustice are entrenched in the fabric of the political machinery, and have free use of all resources available to them.
In short as Remainers dont believe in playing by the rules, Leavers are playing the same game now. And there's more of them. 406/242.
This is why we have MP's squatting in the HoC, jumping ship from independence to the hopefully relative safety of any party that will have them, and all frightened to death of the political retribution coming their way because they asked for instruction and then once given failed to enact it.
Because they knew better.
Its not pretty from any vantage point, its going to get nasty, vindictive and generally unpleasant.
But who do we blame for that? Those that voted Leave and trusted the political classes to do the right thing, or the political classes who instead gave two fingers to their electorate.
Its just lucky that we can, eventually once the squatters are removed, do everything through the ballot box as elsewhere in the world the army would probably be moving in by now as neither the Government or the MP's of any persuasion have any legitimacy. If you have any doubt have a think about the Article 50 vote. And the last election. And the referendum before that.
Cheers,
Tony
I think you'll find its British politicians at fault for the inequalities in society. The tory destruction of industry in the 80's, Thatcher ruining social housing, labour happy to keep the working man in his place to ensure a steady stream of voters, both parties focusing on the South East and ignoring the rest of the country.
None of that is the fault of the EU. If anything, the EU has improved life outside of the South East with its funding for roads and regeneration, which if left to British politicians would have lead to better roads between Westminster and their safe seats in the home counties.
I truly don't understand the thinking behind linking an unfair society to leave the EU, especially when peddled by posh Eaton boys...
p1stonhead said:
Would be interested to hear how many Farage supporters in here would vote for TBP or Tories in an upcoming election?
Can you risk voting for TBP and then Boris not doing a deal with them?
If I were TBP's strategist, I guess I'd want to look at the alternatives and assess the consequences of other likely outcomes. I can't think of many outcomes on offer better than a Boris shafting if the no deal Brexit is lost. Can you risk voting for TBP and then Boris not doing a deal with them?
1. You get a partial Brexit
2. You get to scapegoat the Tories for betraying the vote
3. You perpetuate the requirement for TBP and NF.
What's not to like?
The line to supporters would be suck it up and the Tories can bear the consequences at every election and by-election that follows, especially if the economy dips badly.
On Brexit policy, it's taken 40-odd years almost to claw back to where we were. If it takes another ten to finish the job, so be it and think of all the scorched earth on the way!
Sound plausible?
We've had slavery comparisons from Ann Widdecombe, must admit didn't quite see this one coming from another quality Prospective parliamentary candidate for the Brexit Party.
https://twitter.com/dandayrob/status/1169512549785...
Suffragettes
https://twitter.com/dandayrob/status/1169512549785...
Suffragettes
"Warby told the Northampton Chronicle that the Brexit Party is “more diverse” and “inclusive” than people think."
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/09/05/the-brexit-p...
psi310398 said:
There was another well-publicised case up in Bradford, wasn't there?
It does break out from time to time. And, like TBP, they have to chuck people out.
You have Chris Huhne too and no doubt some others.It does break out from time to time. And, like TBP, they have to chuck people out.
There are no perfect parties.
I think you have to ask yourself whether something is the exception or the norm though.
b
hstewie said:
hstewie said: Incidentally, a couple more of his "quality candidates"
https://twitter.com/MatesJacob/status/115872966011...
https://twitter.com/RexBoog/status/115831476138322...
Adorable aren't they.
I don't believe the majority of stuff that's put on social media.https://twitter.com/MatesJacob/status/115872966011...
https://twitter.com/RexBoog/status/115831476138322...
Adorable aren't they.
I also won't listen to a word a Labour supporter says about anyone ignoring racism, especially not when at the moment the whole party is absolutely rife with it.
If anyone in the TBP is found to be genuinely racist then they should be thrown out, same as any other party.
Leicester Loyal said:
I don't believe the majority of stuff that's put on social media.
I also won't listen to a word a Labour supporter says about anyone ignoring racism, especially not when at the moment the whole party is absolutely rife with it.
I don't think either of the people who made those tweets are Labour supporters according to their profiles.I also won't listen to a word a Labour supporter says about anyone ignoring racism, especially not when at the moment the whole party is absolutely rife with it.
psi310398 said:
Brooking10 said:
She’s a mentalist but I think it’s fair to say not indicative of an ingrained malaise.
There was another well-publicised case up in Bradford, wasn't there? It does break out from time to time. And, like TBP, they have to chuck people out.
The libdems aren’t attracting racists or anti Jewish people.
El stovey said:
Right but Farage is regularly attracting racists with his rabble rousing tactics. He had to leave UKIP because it had become so rotten.
The libdems aren’t attracting racists or anti Jewish people.
If you say so. The ones that do pop up are well established then.The libdems aren’t attracting racists or anti Jewish people.
In the meantime, new MP Phillip Lee has, of course, been welcomed by the Liberal LGBT community...
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: You have Chris Huhne too and no doubt some others.
There are no perfect parties.
I think you have to ask yourself whether something is the exception or the norm though.
Having savoured the rancid outpourings of LibDem Focus leaflets throughout my adult life, I am certain of these things re the LibDems - that there is no depth to which they will not stoop, no smear too nasty to make and no promise they will not make in pursuit of electoral advantage.There are no perfect parties.
I think you have to ask yourself whether something is the exception or the norm though.
rxe said:
Their last leader had a bit of a problem with gays....
The party has had a problem with gays for years (which is a bit strange given Thorpe and co). There are those of us old enough to remember how they dealt with Peter Tatchell in 1983. It was dirtiest, most violent, and certainly the most homophobic election in Britain in the 20th century and it was the Liberals behind the smears.
(What is really redeeming about the whole thing is that Tatchell knew that Simon Hughes had his own gay past but refused to stoop to his level in the fight.)
psi310398 said:
The party has had a problem with gays for years (which is a bit strange given Thorpe and co).
There are those of us old enough to remember how they dealt with Peter Tatchell in 1983. It was dirtiest, most violent, and certainly the most homophobic election in Britain in the 20th century and it was the Liberals behind the smears.
(What is really redeeming about the whole thing is that Tatchell knew that Simon Hughes had his own gay past but refused to stoop to his level in the fight.)
and that's before anyone even mentions fat cyril the beast.There are those of us old enough to remember how they dealt with Peter Tatchell in 1983. It was dirtiest, most violent, and certainly the most homophobic election in Britain in the 20th century and it was the Liberals behind the smears.
(What is really redeeming about the whole thing is that Tatchell knew that Simon Hughes had his own gay past but refused to stoop to his level in the fight.)
Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff