45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 9)
Discussion
paulguitar said:
Kawasicki said:
Very interesting. Thanks for the info. I will read into it, though at first glance it seems like a daft convention.
I think Mueller chose to make that call on the basis that the situation would subsequently be dealt with appropriately by the Senate. Instead, what we saw in the Senate was a debacle because the Republican senators appeared to all have been born without spines.People are people, money/power/influence are strong motivators.
Even on the superficial level I followed the impeachment it was still a debacle though. I think the USA legal system is disturbing, I like to think we are a little less open to financial and political influence on this side of the Atlantic.
trump campaign is skint, despite raising over $1.5bn, and starting raising money on day one of his presidency. Just where did all the money go... apart obviously from the $320m+ passing through companies so it doesn't have to be detailed... or that money paid to his sons partners, or that money routed through Parscale...
The Trump campaign and the R.N.C. have been opaque about some of the $1.2 billion spent since 2019. About half the money, more than $611 million, went to a single limited liability company, American Made Media Consultants, linked to Trump officials and created to place television and digital ads. It was the subject of a recent complaint for intentionally obscuring the real destination of the money, which has included payments to the partners of Mr. Trump’s adult sons, Lara Trump and Kimberly Guilfoyle.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/us/politics/tru...
Maybe Biden could ask him tonight, how much money did he take for himself/ his business from his campaign funds
When Mr. Trump himself travels on Air Force One for political travel, the campaign must reimburse taxpayers for its use. As of the end of September, the single largest debt that Mr. Trump’s campaign owed was to the Treasury Department: $670,000.
Does that imclude flybys? Remember trump campaign still owes $1.82m to 14 cities for his rallies...
The Trump campaign and the R.N.C. have been opaque about some of the $1.2 billion spent since 2019. About half the money, more than $611 million, went to a single limited liability company, American Made Media Consultants, linked to Trump officials and created to place television and digital ads. It was the subject of a recent complaint for intentionally obscuring the real destination of the money, which has included payments to the partners of Mr. Trump’s adult sons, Lara Trump and Kimberly Guilfoyle.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/us/politics/tru...
Maybe Biden could ask him tonight, how much money did he take for himself/ his business from his campaign funds
When Mr. Trump himself travels on Air Force One for political travel, the campaign must reimburse taxpayers for its use. As of the end of September, the single largest debt that Mr. Trump’s campaign owed was to the Treasury Department: $670,000.
Does that imclude flybys? Remember trump campaign still owes $1.82m to 14 cities for his rallies...
Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 22 October 15:30
djc206 said:
Kawasicki said:
It’s officially an acquittal though, even if it is a result of a flawed process. He was acquitted, even if I would prefer he wasn’t.
The target should be the daft process that politicians can take advantage of,
The targets should be the guilty party who hobbled a jury, the jury who were hobbled, the process for being so piss weak it’s that easily and openly corruptible. He was guilty, everyone knows it, why would you not have the trial and allow jurors to hear evidence and actually make their own minds up? There’s only one possible reason and that’s guilt. You’re right though it is an acquittal but it’s an acquittal in the same way the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is Democratic.The target should be the daft process that politicians can take advantage of,
Besides which he categorically was not exonerated by the Mueller Report so there was clearly criminality there that if not for his position and apparent immunity would have likely been prosecuted. I’m 99% certain that once he leaves office someone somewhere will build a case against him that finds criminal wrongdoing and successfully prosecutes him for it. There are just too many fronts on which he’s had accusations thrown at him for him to be innocent. I don’t think the rape or sexual assault stuff will ever stick which it rarely does due to the he said she said nature of it which is a shame because they’re abhorrent crimes. The illegal use of campaign donations might but then I don’t know how much the yanks want to open that can of worms. The tax stuff might be what finally gets him and the best bit about that will be finding out what he’s really worth, might not make Melania happy though when she finds out it’s all a house of cards and she’s going to have to walk away with a gaudy apartment and sod all else.
Kawasicki said:
djc206 said:
Kawasicki said:
It’s officially an acquittal though, even if it is a result of a flawed process. He was acquitted, even if I would prefer he wasn’t.
The target should be the daft process that politicians can take advantage of,
The targets should be the guilty party who hobbled a jury, the jury who were hobbled, the process for being so piss weak it’s that easily and openly corruptible. He was guilty, everyone knows it, why would you not have the trial and allow jurors to hear evidence and actually make their own minds up? There’s only one possible reason and that’s guilt. You’re right though it is an acquittal but it’s an acquittal in the same way the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is Democratic.The target should be the daft process that politicians can take advantage of,
Besides which he categorically was not exonerated by the Mueller Report so there was clearly criminality there that if not for his position and apparent immunity would have likely been prosecuted. I’m 99% certain that once he leaves office someone somewhere will build a case against him that finds criminal wrongdoing and successfully prosecutes him for it. There are just too many fronts on which he’s had accusations thrown at him for him to be innocent. I don’t think the rape or sexual assault stuff will ever stick which it rarely does due to the he said she said nature of it which is a shame because they’re abhorrent crimes. The illegal use of campaign donations might but then I don’t know how much the yanks want to open that can of worms. The tax stuff might be what finally gets him and the best bit about that will be finding out what he’s really worth, might not make Melania happy though when she finds out it’s all a house of cards and she’s going to have to walk away with a gaudy apartment and sod all else.
We have to hope that everyone realises that so many American political processes are based on norms, not laws and those norms are legislated for.
USAG(currently Barr) should not be a politically appointed position for a start.
Sam.M said:
Byker28i said:
Maybe Biden could ask him tonight, how much money did he take for himself/ his business from his campaign funds
And to think, Biden will actually be able to speak unhindered this time. God bless mute buttons.
Kawasicki said:
It’s a swamp, and Trump has made it worse. It’s truly crazy, cringeworthy and pretty depressing.
His one useful feature has been his exposure of just how corrupt it all is and how far too much power is concentrated in the hands of one person. That and the stupid political judicial appointment thing. Absolutely nuts. I know our system isn’t great but theirs is contemptibleCenturion07 said:
Kawasicki said:
I think the number of politicians with spines is roughly similar on both sides.
Still spouting b
ks.Maybe you should have a quiet moment to consider that.
Kawasicki said:
Centurion07 said:
Kawasicki said:
I think the number of politicians with spines is roughly similar on both sides.
Still spouting bks.Maybe you should have a quiet moment to consider that.
No.
Criminal?
Oh yes
And that’s pre-Trump.
What is it now, 90 more indictment on the GOP side?
I'm genuinely curious as to what will happen (obviously, it'll be a Car crash), but Big dumb Donny is an extreme narcisist, completely deranged, he doesn't share, anything, ever! The Camera, all Camera's HAVE to be on him, I genuinely believe that psychologically he simply can not cope with having to be quiet. We've seen many times, how incredibly fragile he is, can't handle criticism (or truths) of any kind. The second Biden puts him under any kind of pressure, even gently, says anything he doesn't like (which won't take long), he'll collapse.
After last time, surely Biden's team know exactly how to upset the Florescent fraud? Add in the 2 minute mute that will massively unsettle the Orange Moron & surely it's the biggest, widest open Goal ever? And they've already had a "dry run"!
Two whole minutes, multiple occasions? He'll won't be able to cope, he simply cannot keep his gigantic, drooling Gob shut, ever. So, flounce away? carry on talking over Biden? Claim it's all so "unfair" & throw a tantrum? All of the above? Something else?
Naturally, regardless of the outcome he'll claim it was all rigged, all unfair, shortly followed by a Twitter bluster in which he'll claim to have won Bigly
After last time, surely Biden's team know exactly how to upset the Florescent fraud? Add in the 2 minute mute that will massively unsettle the Orange Moron & surely it's the biggest, widest open Goal ever? And they've already had a "dry run"!
Two whole minutes, multiple occasions? He'll won't be able to cope, he simply cannot keep his gigantic, drooling Gob shut, ever. So, flounce away? carry on talking over Biden? Claim it's all so "unfair" & throw a tantrum? All of the above? Something else?
Naturally, regardless of the outcome he'll claim it was all rigged, all unfair, shortly followed by a Twitter bluster in which he'll claim to have won Bigly
Kawasicki, you're getting short shrift here and with just one example, I'll show you why
If you did just a tiny bit of research, you'd fimd that despite promising to release his tax returns back in 2016, Trump has consistently gone to court to keep his tax records secret. This is has been in the news many times, for example just this week: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/...
Its fine if you don't like Biden, I've no opinion on him as a politician, but to suggest he is anywhere near the fraudelent, narcissistic, misogynistic, corrupt and arrogant nature of Trump is either blissfully naive or being deliberately inflammatory.
If you don't know whats going on because you only listen tot he radio for 10 minutes a day, please do google subjects before posting, if only to stop looking like a complete plonker when you do post...
Kawasicki said:
Byker28i said:
Nope - where's you're proof of any wrong doing? Remember this is all about taking votes away from Biden, same as the "is this the best the US could do" to take votes away from Biden for a third candidate.
Bidens released his tax returns for the last 10 years. Bidens admitted his son had issues with addiction that he's struggled to over come and that he's proud of him for doing so.
Plus we've all said many times, we all had different ideal candidates other than Biden. But remember, despite trumps best efforts, it's not about one person, it's about a team and Bidens assembling a pretty good one
For most of what you’ve just posted I could substitute the name Biden with Trump.Bidens released his tax returns for the last 10 years. Bidens admitted his son had issues with addiction that he's struggled to over come and that he's proud of him for doing so.
Plus we've all said many times, we all had different ideal candidates other than Biden. But remember, despite trumps best efforts, it's not about one person, it's about a team and Bidens assembling a pretty good one
Its fine if you don't like Biden, I've no opinion on him as a politician, but to suggest he is anywhere near the fraudelent, narcissistic, misogynistic, corrupt and arrogant nature of Trump is either blissfully naive or being deliberately inflammatory.
If you don't know whats going on because you only listen tot he radio for 10 minutes a day, please do google subjects before posting, if only to stop looking like a complete plonker when you do post...
Edited by Crafty_ on Thursday 22 October 16:11
Sam.M said:
Kawasicki said:
Centurion07 said:
Kawasicki said:
I think the number of politicians with spines is roughly similar on both sides.
Still spouting bks.Maybe you should have a quiet moment to consider that.
No.
Criminal?
Oh yes
And that’s pre-Trump.
What is it now, 90 more indictment on the GOP side?
^was the point I was making.
But then you have other, non-criminal, examples too.
D Al Franken. Apparently once made a woman feel a little uncomfortable. Resigned as a senator.
R Roy Moore. Credibly accused of grooming underage girl. Resigned? Nope. Endorsed by GOP AFTER that became known? Yup.
So you can stick all that "both parties are the same", "both candidates are the same" horses
t up your arse. Crafty_ said:
If you did just a tiny bit of research, you'd fimd that despite promising to release his tax returns back in 2016, Trump has consistently gone to court to keep his tax records secret. This is has been in the news many times, for example just this week: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/...
Its fine if you don't like Biden, I've no opinion on him as a politician, but to suggest he is anywhere near the fraudelent, misogynistic, corrupt and arrogant nature that Trump is is either blissfully naive or being deliberately inflammatory.
If you don't know whats going on because you only listen tot he radio for 10 minutes a day, please do google subjects before posting, if only to stop looking like a complete plonker when you do post...
Not just his tax records.Its fine if you don't like Biden, I've no opinion on him as a politician, but to suggest he is anywhere near the fraudelent, misogynistic, corrupt and arrogant nature that Trump is is either blissfully naive or being deliberately inflammatory.
If you don't know whats going on because you only listen tot he radio for 10 minutes a day, please do google subjects before posting, if only to stop looking like a complete plonker when you do post...
He threatens to sue to keep EVERYTHING secret.
He's such a genius but you can't see his grades?
Why the need for all those NDA's?
I can see him walking out. I doubt he will not attend as it is a platform. He'll say it's the media generating fake news and turn around with his chin, if not his head, stuck up in the air. He will not take kindly to a mute button. It'll give Biden a problem. If he stays on and speaks, then doesn't that mean that Trump will have equal time on the air unhindered by an oponent?
He will say he won on principles, that the media are all against him, that his two minutes were worth 50 of anyone else's and similar ephemera.
I can't see the point of staying up until 2 am BST just to experience Bat Sh*t Time. If I want to be terminally depressed, I'll look in the mirror when naked.
I'll watch the F1 GP on Sunday. Much less predictable.
He will say he won on principles, that the media are all against him, that his two minutes were worth 50 of anyone else's and similar ephemera.
I can't see the point of staying up until 2 am BST just to experience Bat Sh*t Time. If I want to be terminally depressed, I'll look in the mirror when naked.
I'll watch the F1 GP on Sunday. Much less predictable.
Centurion07 said:
Sam.M said:
Kawasicki said:
Centurion07 said:
Kawasicki said:
I think the number of politicians with spines is roughly similar on both sides.
Still spouting bks.Maybe you should have a quiet moment to consider that.
No.
Criminal?
Oh yes
And that’s pre-Trump.
What is it now, 90 more indictment on the GOP side?
^was the point I was making.
But then you have other, non-criminal, examples too.
D Al Franken. Apparently once made a woman feel a little uncomfortable. Resigned as a senator.
R Roy Moore. Credibly accused of grooming underage girl. Resigned? Nope. Endorsed by GOP AFTER that became known? Yup.
So you can stick all that "both parties are the same", "both candidates are the same" horses
t up your arse. Why are you saying that I wrote both parties or both candidates are the same? I didn’t, I’ve written on numerous occasions that Trump is not someone I would support. I dislike him. Biden is far superior, not that that is much of a challenge.
Finally, why are you so emotional about this whole topic? Take a breather, you’re letting it get to you.
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