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amusingduck

9,403 posts

138 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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CaptainSlow said:
TTmonkey said:
She is terribly worried about Brexit, she’s worried about how the Spanish will treat her, and so are many of the 2.5 million or so people that live in the EU in retirement. Does the NHS want them back? I don’t think so. Many are already bailing out and coming back.
2.5 million? Are you sure?
1.3m in total according to the BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46841041

A quarter of those are retired, according to this:
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/research/end-retir...

I make that to be about 325k, not 2.5m

Coolbanana

4,417 posts

202 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Oilchange said:
It will hardly go tits up for them, sorry to disappoint.
Their presence in those countries is valued as they bring a lot of money in. Hence PM Antonio Costa and the British lanes at Portuguese Airports.
Our PM Costa has guaranteed it will be no negative change for Brits and yes, special lanes.

Portugal relies heavily upon tourism and while it has been very successful of late in attracting large numbers from other countries, it won't alienate the Brits who have been a bedrock historically.

All those from the UK newly living here now get 5 year residency permits as standard to take them straight to the Citizen status application once they've been here that long.

Portugal lost a lot to emigration. They are offering all sorts of incentives to encourage Portuguese Citizens to return and for foreigners to make it their home. Brexit won't cause any issues whatsoever here.

The Algarve region in particular caters to many nationalities, including shops having produce from all over Europe. Yep, we have a British Supermarket too, Portuguese shop there, not just Brits on holiday or locals. In the UK, I generally just went to Sainsbury's or Tesco, whichever was closest. Here, I use 4 or 5 different ones to get a huge variety from local to international. Great stuff.

Anyway, that's Portugal, not sure about Spain but can't see it being much different there.


anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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JagLover said:
According to the Telegraph the mob of shouting anti-Brexit protestors were arranged ten yards in front of the podium, but Remainer posters somehow think this is normal for a press conference and that it could have gone ahead with that level of noise being picked up by microphones.

Just calculated ritual humiliation that wont have changed the views of the dedicated on both sides but might have got a few in the middle wondering why the PM of tiny Luxemburg gets to gleefully insult the British PM with impunity.
“Gleefully insult the British PM with impunity”

A little strong perhaps ?

loafer123

15,506 posts

217 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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berlintaxi said:
JagLover said:
According to the Telegraph the mob of shouting anti-Brexit protestors were arranged ten yards in front of the podium, but Remainer posters somehow think this is normal for a press conference and that it could have gone ahead with that level of noise being picked up by microphones.

Just calculated ritual humiliation that wont have changed the views of the dedicated on both sides but might have got a few in the middle wondering why the PM of tiny Luxemburg gets to gleefully insult the British PM with impunity.
Must be true because the Telegraph never has an agenda.rolleyes
To be fair, the first para is simple fact.

grumbledoak

31,619 posts

235 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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JagLover said:
Just calculated ritual humiliation that wont have changed the views of the dedicated on both sides but might have got a few in the middle wondering why the PM of tiny Luxemburg gets to gleefully insult the British PM with impunity.
A dick move. Playing to his audience, some of whom are posting here.

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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grumbledoak said:
A dick move. Playing to his audience, some of whom are posting here.
You mean Boris right ?






Zirconia

36,010 posts

286 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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digimeistter said:
Is that a Zirconium hat you are wearing?

Is it more efficient than Tinfoil?

asking for a friend....
Absolutely. Superb stuff.

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Earthdweller said:
Hitler was far from a member of the elite

Son of a low level civil servant and bee keeper .. failed at school and by his late teens orphaned and living in homeless hostels before being conscripted into the Army as a private soldier

Very different from Boris
CEO of the worlds biggest killing company, not elite enough?

Mrr T

12,447 posts

267 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Coolbanana said:
Our PM Costa has guaranteed it will be no negative change for Brits and yes, special lanes.

Portugal relies heavily upon tourism and while it has been very successful of late in attracting large numbers from other countries, it won't alienate the Brits who have been a bedrock historically.

All those from the UK newly living here now get 5 year residency permits as standard to take them straight to the Citizen status application once they've been here that long.

Portugal lost a lot to emigration. They are offering all sorts of incentives to encourage Portuguese Citizens to return and for foreigners to make it their home. Brexit won't cause any issues whatsoever here.

The Algarve region in particular caters to many nationalities, including shops having produce from all over Europe. Yep, we have a British Supermarket too, Portuguese shop there, not just Brits on holiday or locals. In the UK, I generally just went to Sainsbury's or Tesco, whichever was closest. Here, I use 4 or 5 different ones to get a huge variety from local to international. Great stuff.

Anyway, that's Portugal, not sure about Spain but can't see it being much different there.
Is it really that simple? No deal will mean no deal on S1 system. I assume residency does not give you rights to health care. I assume citizenship will but I assume that will require a language test.

In Spain there is an additional problem. Spain is one of the few countries which does not allow dual citizenship. So you have to give up your UK citizenship making return difficult.

Earthdweller

13,729 posts

128 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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yonex said:
Earthdweller said:
Hitler was far from a member of the elite

Son of a low level civil servant and bee keeper .. failed at school and by his late teens orphaned and living in homeless hostels before being conscripted into the Army as a private soldier

Very different from Boris
CEO of the worlds biggest killing company, not elite enough?
You compared Hitler with BJ as both members of the elite

Hitler was the son of a lowly worker who failed to complete school .. BJ is from a wealthy upper class family .. was educated at Eton and studied classics

One is clearly from the elite .. one not

smile

Digga

40,603 posts

285 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Coolbanana said:
Anyway, that's Portugal, not sure about Spain but can't see it being much different there.
O/T Portugal is like Spain being run with German efficiency.

No one can be sure about Spain. hehe

Le Controleur Horizontal

1,480 posts

62 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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yonex said:
CEO of the worlds biggest killing company, not elite enough?
Massive knowledge

loafer123

15,506 posts

217 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Mrr T said:
Coolbanana said:
Our PM Costa has guaranteed it will be no negative change for Brits and yes, special lanes.

Portugal relies heavily upon tourism and while it has been very successful of late in attracting large numbers from other countries, it won't alienate the Brits who have been a bedrock historically.

All those from the UK newly living here now get 5 year residency permits as standard to take them straight to the Citizen status application once they've been here that long.

Portugal lost a lot to emigration. They are offering all sorts of incentives to encourage Portuguese Citizens to return and for foreigners to make it their home. Brexit won't cause any issues whatsoever here.

The Algarve region in particular caters to many nationalities, including shops having produce from all over Europe. Yep, we have a British Supermarket too, Portuguese shop there, not just Brits on holiday or locals. In the UK, I generally just went to Sainsbury's or Tesco, whichever was closest. Here, I use 4 or 5 different ones to get a huge variety from local to international. Great stuff.

Anyway, that's Portugal, not sure about Spain but can't see it being much different there.
Is it really that simple? No deal will mean no deal on S1 system. I assume residency does not give you rights to health care. I assume citizenship will but I assume that will require a language test.

In Spain there is an additional problem. Spain is one of the few countries which does not allow dual citizenship. So you have to give up your UK citizenship making return difficult.
Are you alleging that Coolbanana uses public health systems?!

How VERY dare you!

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Boris was right to miss the joint broadcast malarkey thing.
I was reading some twitter comments from journalists who don't come across as Borisans (fans) and state that the situation was deeply unpleasant, dangerous etc.

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

175 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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techiedave said:
Boris was right to miss the joint broadcast malarkey thing.
I was reading some twitter comments from journalists who don't come across as Borisans (fans) and state that the situation was deeply unpleasant, dangerous etc.
Unpleasant possibly, dangerous no chance.

vaud

51,035 posts

157 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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berlintaxi said:
Unpleasant possibly, dangerous no chance.
I agree. If it was dangerous then either security team would have pulled it.

It does seem odd though that they allowed the protesters quite so close. Right to demonstrate - fine. Right to be 10 metres away... less sure.

Mrr T

12,447 posts

267 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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loafer123 said:
Mrr T said:
Coolbanana said:
Our PM Costa has guaranteed it will be no negative change for Brits and yes, special lanes.

Portugal relies heavily upon tourism and while it has been very successful of late in attracting large numbers from other countries, it won't alienate the Brits who have been a bedrock historically.

All those from the UK newly living here now get 5 year residency permits as standard to take them straight to the Citizen status application once they've been here that long.

Portugal lost a lot to emigration. They are offering all sorts of incentives to encourage Portuguese Citizens to return and for foreigners to make it their home. Brexit won't cause any issues whatsoever here.

The Algarve region in particular caters to many nationalities, including shops having produce from all over Europe. Yep, we have a British Supermarket too, Portuguese shop there, not just Brits on holiday or locals. In the UK, I generally just went to Sainsbury's or Tesco, whichever was closest. Here, I use 4 or 5 different ones to get a huge variety from local to international. Great stuff.

Anyway, that's Portugal, not sure about Spain but can't see it being much different there.
Is it really that simple? No deal will mean no deal on S1 system. I assume residency does not give you rights to health care. I assume citizenship will but I assume that will require a language test.

In Spain there is an additional problem. Spain is one of the few countries which does not allow dual citizenship. So you have to give up your UK citizenship making return difficult.
Are you alleging that Coolbanana uses public health systems?!

How VERY dare you!
smile

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Mrr T said:
Is it really that simple? No deal will mean no deal on S1 system. I assume residency does not give you rights to health care. I assume citizenship will but I assume that will require a language test.

In Spain there is an additional problem. Spain is one of the few countries which does not allow dual citizenship. So you have to give up your UK citizenship making return difficult.
The Spanish government has already stated in March this year that the reciprocal health care system between the UK and Spain will continue when Brexit occurs.

Spain wants the Brits to stay, their health care system benefits from the UK paying for it.

ORD

18,120 posts

129 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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jsf said:
The Spanish government has already stated in March this year that the reciprocal health care system between the UK and Spain will continue when Brexit occurs.

Spain wants the Brits to stay, their health care system benefits from the UK paying for it.
I doubt that there’s any profit to be had from providing state healthcare to elderly ex-pats, but I could be wrong.

Le Controleur Horizontal

1,480 posts

62 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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ORD said:
I doubt that there’s any profit to be had from providing state healthcare to elderly ex-pats, but I could be wrong.
Employment, spending etc etc... ?

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