Boris Johnson- Prime Minister
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Mrr T said:
Is it really that simple? No deal will mean no deal on S1 system. I assume residency does not give you rights to health care. I assume citizenship will but I assume that will require a language test.
In Spain there is an additional problem. Spain is one of the few countries which does not allow dual citizenship. So you have to give up your UK citizenship making return difficult.
They really are making it very easy here, including assurances regarding Health care - all residents qualify to use local as it is resident-based for qualification, not Citizen. So no issues there. I personally have Private and it's cheaper than the UK. In Spain there is an additional problem. Spain is one of the few countries which does not allow dual citizenship. So you have to give up your UK citizenship making return difficult.
Health care is one of the draw cards Portugal used last year when they had a National campaign to Brits about making their residency legal. A large number have lived here for donkey's years and never bothered with making their status legal - the Portuguese turned a blind eye because they didn't want to discourage the money being brought in. But Brexit changes things in that respect and Portugal is wanting all those who intend to continue living here permanently to go legal and, to be fair, they are making it simple and quick.
Yes, in 3 years for me, I am to demonstrate a 'sufficient grasp' of Portuguese for Citizenship, but I know a few who couldn't order a meal in a restaurant in Portuguese who passed...so take that as you will.
Seventy said:
If you have the emotional intelligence of a three year old, maybe.Seventy said:
Guardian said:
He begged Bettel to move their joint press conference somewhere less noisy. Preferably somewhere no one would ask him any difficult questions
Does this drivel constitute "nailing it"?. How does moving a press conference inside change the questions being asked?. Do remainers think he was going to be taking questions from the mob?Edited by JagLover on Tuesday 17th September 11:24
Edited by JagLover on Tuesday 17th September 11:25
JagLover said:
Guardian]He begged Bettel to move their joint press conference somewhere less noisy. Preferably somewhere no one would ask him any difficult questions[/guardian said:
Does this drivel constitute "naling it"?. How does moving a press conference inside change the questions being asked?. Do remainers think he was going to be taking questions from the mob?
Quite especially as a previous press conference was held indoors at the same venue last time a meeting was held... JagLover said:
Seventy said:
Guardian]He begged Bettel to move their joint press conference somewhere less noisy. Preferably somewhere no one would ask him any difficult questions[/guardian said:
Does this drivel constitute "naling it"?. How does moving a press conference inside change the questions being asked?. Do remainers think he was going to be taking questions from the mob?
Just made up Melt food."he begged.....", do f
k off GuardianJagLover said:
Does this drivel constitute "nailing it"?. How does moving a press conference inside change the questions being asked?. Do remainers think he was going to be taking questions from the mob?
The mob? What all 50 of them?Edited by JagLover on Tuesday 17th September 11:25
They look like a really threatening group.
Only drivel if it doesn't conform to your bigoted view.
Seventy said:
JagLover said:
Does this drivel constitute "nailing it"?. How does moving a press conference inside change the questions being asked?. Do remainers think he was going to be taking questions from the mob?
The mob? What all 50 of them?Edited by JagLover on Tuesday 17th September 11:25
They look like a really threatening group.
Only drivel if it doesn't conform to your bigoted view.
Troubleatmill said:
Regardless of what side of the debate you are on.
Can anyone really not see anything wrong with having a press conference with the leader of the host nation and a visiting nation with protestors sporting megaphones just 30 feet away?
It’s a stitch up good and proper.
Yes, mean people with their nasty words.Can anyone really not see anything wrong with having a press conference with the leader of the host nation and a visiting nation with protestors sporting megaphones just 30 feet away?
It’s a stitch up good and proper.
Our PM is a joke, not sure how that is a stitch up?
What we can infer from this nonsense over the press conference is that Johnson simply can't take being confronted by the public.
He simply ran away.
Our Prime Minister ran away from a small bunch of middle-aged people because they were a bit noisy. He didn't go over and have a chat. He didn't even try to hold the press conference and then give up if the noise was too bad. He just gave up and hid.
He could have turned a negative into a positive by showing he was the sort of bloke who will face up to challenges and listen to people. He could have shown some basic grit and gumption by showing that he was a man willing to talk to those that oppose his views, but no. He simply ran.
I may have even gained some grudging respect for him for facing up to the protesters and pretending to take their point of views into account, but he didn't do it, he ran and hid.
The UK deserves better than to have a coward in charge of it. A man who hides from the scrutiny of Parliament and anyone who might disagree with him.
Spineless.
He simply ran away.
Our Prime Minister ran away from a small bunch of middle-aged people because they were a bit noisy. He didn't go over and have a chat. He didn't even try to hold the press conference and then give up if the noise was too bad. He just gave up and hid.
He could have turned a negative into a positive by showing he was the sort of bloke who will face up to challenges and listen to people. He could have shown some basic grit and gumption by showing that he was a man willing to talk to those that oppose his views, but no. He simply ran.
I may have even gained some grudging respect for him for facing up to the protesters and pretending to take their point of views into account, but he didn't do it, he ran and hid.
The UK deserves better than to have a coward in charge of it. A man who hides from the scrutiny of Parliament and anyone who might disagree with him.
Spineless.
IforB said:
What we can infer from this nonsense over the press conference is that Johnson simply can't take being confronted by the public.
He simply ran away.
Our Prime Minister ran away from a small bunch of middle-aged people because they were a bit noisy. He didn't go over and have a chat. He didn't even try to hold the press conference and then give up if the noise was too bad. He just gave up and hid.
He could have turned a negative into a positive by showing he was the sort of bloke who will face up to challenges and listen to people. He could have shown some basic grit and gumption by showing that he was a man willing to talk to those that oppose his views, but no. He simply ran.
I may have even gained some grudging respect for him for facing up to the protesters and pretending to take their point of views into account, but he didn't do it, he ran and hid.
The UK deserves better than to have a coward in charge of it. A man who hides from the scrutiny of Parliament and anyone who might disagree with him.
Spineless.
+1 He simply ran away.
Our Prime Minister ran away from a small bunch of middle-aged people because they were a bit noisy. He didn't go over and have a chat. He didn't even try to hold the press conference and then give up if the noise was too bad. He just gave up and hid.
He could have turned a negative into a positive by showing he was the sort of bloke who will face up to challenges and listen to people. He could have shown some basic grit and gumption by showing that he was a man willing to talk to those that oppose his views, but no. He simply ran.
I may have even gained some grudging respect for him for facing up to the protesters and pretending to take their point of views into account, but he didn't do it, he ran and hid.
The UK deserves better than to have a coward in charge of it. A man who hides from the scrutiny of Parliament and anyone who might disagree with him.
Spineless.
Troubleatmill said:
Regardless of what side of the debate you are on.
Can anyone really not see anything wrong with having a press conference with the leader of the host nation and a visiting nation with protestors sporting megaphones just 30 feet away?
It’s a stitch up good and proper.
And yet they seem to manage fine when doing a speech from the podium outside 10 Downing St with protesters a similar distance away...Can anyone really not see anything wrong with having a press conference with the leader of the host nation and a visiting nation with protestors sporting megaphones just 30 feet away?
It’s a stitch up good and proper.
IforB said:
What we can infer from this nonsense over the press conference is that Johnson simply can't take being confronted by the public.
He simply ran away.
Our Prime Minister ran away from a small bunch of middle-aged people because they were a bit noisy. He didn't go over and have a chat. He didn't even try to hold the press conference and then give up if the noise was too bad. He just gave up and hid.
He could have turned a negative into a positive by showing he was the sort of bloke who will face up to challenges and listen to people. He could have shown some basic grit and gumption by showing that he was a man willing to talk to those that oppose his views, but no. He simply ran.
I may have even gained some grudging respect for him for facing up to the protesters and pretending to take their point of views into account, but he didn't do it, he ran and hid.
The UK deserves better than to have a coward in charge of it. A man who hides from the scrutiny of Parliament and anyone who might disagree with him.
Spineless.
Precisely this. It also gives further question to what sort of amateurs he’s got running his private office. This isn’t the first PR lash-up he’s stumbled into.He simply ran away.
Our Prime Minister ran away from a small bunch of middle-aged people because they were a bit noisy. He didn't go over and have a chat. He didn't even try to hold the press conference and then give up if the noise was too bad. He just gave up and hid.
He could have turned a negative into a positive by showing he was the sort of bloke who will face up to challenges and listen to people. He could have shown some basic grit and gumption by showing that he was a man willing to talk to those that oppose his views, but no. He simply ran.
I may have even gained some grudging respect for him for facing up to the protesters and pretending to take their point of views into account, but he didn't do it, he ran and hid.
The UK deserves better than to have a coward in charge of it. A man who hides from the scrutiny of Parliament and anyone who might disagree with him.
Spineless.
Why hadn’t the PO sent an advance party to recce the itinerary, spot any difficult situations and manage them away beforehand instead of arguing with the host on the day?
Accepting the press conference would happen in earshot of the protesters, why wasn’t his director of commas advising him to go ahead and then present it as bad management by the Luxembourg officials if he did get drowned out?
It really does seem like his PO are massively struggling
El stovey said:
Supreme Court has just started. Will they be brave heroes standing up for the people or traitors.
Surely that's down to whether they come up with the answer you want, and how emotionally invested you are in that desire. Their job is to decide how the law reflects on the question, not to be heroes or villains to any particular section of society.
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