How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 7)
Discussion
carinatauk said:
Just to follow up on the Airbus Brexit discussion
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbus-a380/air...
Probably a sign of the dark clouds forming on the global economy https://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbus-a380/air...
Toaster said:
Probably a sign of the dark clouds forming on the global economy
Slowdown, maybe but some analysts are being more cautious on calling a recession:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-03...
Some segments are very healthy - e.g. IT spend continues at +6-7% YoY with a similar pull through of technology services spend.
dasigty said:
chrispmartha said:
1975 is 44 years ago, have you had a bad life since then? Was that the fault of the EU, what makes you so angered about being part of the EU? My last question is the serious one!
Allow me to answer the serious one with a serious answer.The amount of freedom and rights taken away as a direct result of the EU. a so called "Trading arrangement" lets not forget, that has infested everyday life with mountains of rules that are in direct conflict with the common law history & traditions of this country.
Free speech has become a thing of the past, the rights of the individual under British law eroded, the ability to hold politicians who make decisions that effect us to account.
The corruption that has cost this country dear, in money, jobs, and political honesty, the imposition of a globalist agenda and political correctness to the determent of this country.
The simple truth that its a front for the banks, as demonstrated by its actions in Greece.
More employed than ever before.
Richer than ever before.
"political correctness to the detriment of the country".... Please explain your reasoning please?
A "front for the banks". And lizard overlords?
What rights have the EU taken away?
And let's not forget the imminent 40 trade deals our crack team are currently pursuing are likely to mirror exactly what we already have with our existing EU trade deals (except for that delicious lamb & beef deal with Japan....nom...nom....nom).
At First this seems a lighter moment
https://dms.licdn.com/playback/C4E05AQG1gWruXfc3tg...
But how depressing !
https://dms.licdn.com/playback/C4E05AQG1gWruXfc3tg...
But how depressing !
Piha said:
(except for that delicious lamb & beef deal with Japan....nom...nom....nom).
Minor point, but I don't think it was a deal. They just lifted a 2 decade long ban (based on an existing deal) having inspected the UK supply chain and reached satisfaction that it was in line with Japanese standards.It is good news though I agree. Good market to be in, Japan. With the right product/distribution a good margin can be made and they like many British things...
I found this an interesting watch on the subject of the EU. This programme focuses on the Euro crisis and Greece. The one thing which I noted about it was that the issue was, publicly at least. assessed by the EU as the profligacy of Greece, with no examination of the fundamental issues with the Euro
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0002fgg
Includes an interesting piece on Alastair Darling's participation in the crucial summit and Obama's participation in a meeting at the G20
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0002fgg
Includes an interesting piece on Alastair Darling's participation in the crucial summit and Obama's participation in a meeting at the G20
Greg66 said:
Do you think there is an international conspiracy of bankers?
The EU IS "The bankers", rather than play silly games of painting things as "A conspiracy", try looking at what did happen with Greece and those "Emergency Loans" forced on it. See who got the money, I will give you a clue, it was not Greece.Camoradi said:
I found this an interesting watch on the subject of the EU. This programme focuses on the Euro crisis and Greece. The one thing which I noted about it was that the issue was, publicly at least. assessed by the EU as the profligacy of Greece, with no examination of the fundamental issues with the Euro
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0002fgg
Includes an interesting piece on Alastair Darling's participation in the crucial summit and Obama's participation in a meeting at the G20
Does it cover Goldman Sach's questionable role in the original Euro entry for Greece? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0002fgg
Includes an interesting piece on Alastair Darling's participation in the crucial summit and Obama's participation in a meeting at the G20
Vaud said:
Piha said:
(except for that delicious lamb & beef deal with Japan....nom...nom....nom).
Minor point, but I don't think it was a deal. They just lifted a 2 decade long ban (based on an existing deal) having inspected the UK supply chain and reached satisfaction that it was in line with Japanese standards.It is good news though I agree. Good market to be in, Japan. With the right product/distribution a good margin can be made and they like many British things...
A huge boon, DEFRA and the supporting agencies deserve a proper pat on the back.
richie99 said:
powerstroke said:
Helicopter123 said:
You’ve clearly benefitted from EU membership during your life time, but as it now draws towards it’s close, why do you want to deprive future generations of the same?
If you so keen on FOM, why deny it to others?
You can’t appear to make any rational case for leaving.
You can't appear to make any rational case for remaining .If you so keen on FOM, why deny it to others?
You can’t appear to make any rational case for leaving.
chrispmartha said:
Can you list the freedoms that the EU have taken away from you, can you list the Laws that you feel have impacted your life in a negative way and can you explain how the EU has taken freedom of speech away.
No mate, do your own research, it sounds like you badly need to educate yourself. Piha said:
dasigty said:
chrispmartha said:
1975 is 44 years ago, have you had a bad life since then? Was that the fault of the EU, what makes you so angered about being part of the EU? My last question is the serious one!
Allow me to answer the serious one with a serious answer.The amount of freedom and rights taken away as a direct result of the EU. a so called "Trading arrangement" lets not forget, that has infested everyday life with mountains of rules that are in direct conflict with the common law history & traditions of this country.
Free speech has become a thing of the past, the rights of the individual under British law eroded, the ability to hold politicians who make decisions that effect us to account.
The corruption that has cost this country dear, in money, jobs, and political honesty, the imposition of a globalist agenda and political correctness to the determent of this country.
The simple truth that its a front for the banks, as demonstrated by its actions in Greece.
More employed than ever before.
Richer than ever before.
"political correctness to the detriment of the country".... Please explain your reasoning please?
A "front for the banks". And lizard overlords?
What rights have the EU taken away?
And let's not forget the imminent 40 trade deals our crack team are currently pursuing are likely to mirror exactly what we already have with our existing EU trade deals (except for that delicious lamb & beef deal with Japan....nom...nom....nom).
The EU hasn't taken any rights away as far as I can tell, in fact we have more freedoms with the ordinary man and woman afforded more protections. Common law, clearly the poster has no idea that traditions and common law are overridden by statute law (ones made by our parliament) do we still use ducking stools and burn witches? I could go on but what's the point. If the EU controlled us we would be retiring on much higher pensions but given that the UK has autonomy clearly we don't!
dasigty said:
chrispmartha said:
Can you list the freedoms that the EU have taken away from you, can you list the Laws that you feel have impacted your life in a negative way and can you explain how the EU has taken freedom of speech away.
No mate, do your own research, it sounds like you badly need to educate yourself. Vaud said:
Piha said:
(except for that delicious lamb & beef deal with Japan....nom...nom....nom).
Minor point, but I don't think it was a deal. They just lifted a 2 decade long ban (based on an existing deal) having inspected the UK supply chain and reached satisfaction that it was in line with Japanese standards.It is good news though I agree. Good market to be in, Japan. With the right product/distribution a good margin can be made and they like many British things...
dasigty said:
Allow me to answer the serious one with a serious answer.
The amount of freedom and rights taken away as a direct result of the EU. a so called "Trading arrangement" lets not forget, that has infested everyday life with mountains of rules that are in direct conflict with the common law history & traditions of this country.
Free speech has become a thing of the past, the rights of the individual under British law eroded, the ability to hold politicians who make decisions that effect us to account.
The corruption that has cost this country dear, in money, jobs, and political honesty, the imposition of a globalist agenda and political correctness to the determent of this country.
The simple truth that its a front for the banks, as demonstrated by its actions in Greece.
To believe that is a serious answer, you have to believe that the UK political class would not have pursued the erosion of free speech or individual rights all by themselves.The amount of freedom and rights taken away as a direct result of the EU. a so called "Trading arrangement" lets not forget, that has infested everyday life with mountains of rules that are in direct conflict with the common law history & traditions of this country.
Free speech has become a thing of the past, the rights of the individual under British law eroded, the ability to hold politicians who make decisions that effect us to account.
The corruption that has cost this country dear, in money, jobs, and political honesty, the imposition of a globalist agenda and political correctness to the determent of this country.
The simple truth that its a front for the banks, as demonstrated by its actions in Greece.
Anyone who actually believes leaving the EU is going to change our ability to hold politicians to account, or change the green agenda or remove pretty much any of the rules that the EU has introduced is honestly fooling themselves. This is the way the UK government has been going for some time, and will continue to go, because removing us from the EU doesn't alter the globalist pressures at all.
Camoradi said:
I found this an interesting watch on the subject of the EU. This programme focuses on the Euro crisis and Greece. The one thing which I noted about it was that the issue was, publicly at least. assessed by the EU as the profligacy of Greece, with no examination of the fundamental issues with the Euro
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0002fgg
Includes an interesting piece on Alastair Darling's participation in the crucial summit and Obama's participation in a meeting at the G20
Mr Varoufakis had something to say about that doc:https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0002fgg
Includes an interesting piece on Alastair Darling's participation in the crucial summit and Obama's participation in a meeting at the G20
https://twitter.com/yanisvaroufakis/status/1093108...
"Yes, during my 1st Eurogroup I had to consult with the PM at length. What the BBC doco failed to document was why: The Eurogroup President had threatened us, unlawfully, that unless we denounced our fresh mandate, they would close down our banks in days."
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