Coronavirus - the killer flu that will wipe us out? (Vol. 6)

[markyb_lcy]

rambo19 said:

Lordbenny said:

rambo19 said:

When?

The BBC understands that the changes in the guidelines will mean two friends would be able to sit more than two metres apart in a park, and also that sports like golf, tennis, fishing and outdoor watersports will now be possible for people in the same household.

So Boris never said it, and the bbc is not the law.
God help us.

Don't knock it ... many of the "restrictions" people have been following were never the law either.

I would like some clarification on this sports thing that Boris casually alluded to but didn't provide any detail on.

Unfortunately, unless the legislation itself is amended, we might still see over-zealous police continue to enforce as they see fit.

[ChocolateFrog]

Lordbenny said:

rambo19 said:

When?

The BBC understands that the changes in the guidelines will mean two friends would be able to sit more than two metres apart in a park, and also that sports like golf, tennis, fishing and outdoor watersports will now be possible for people in the same household.

Nice to know my niche dogging requirements are catered for.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Sunday 10th May 21:39

[sim72]

rambo19 said:

Lordbenny said:

rambo19 said:

When?

The BBC understands that the changes in the guidelines will mean two friends would be able to sit more than two metres apart in a park, and also that sports like golf, tennis, fishing and outdoor watersports will now be possible for people in the same household.

So Boris never said it, and the bbc is not the law.
God help us.

Not only the BBC saying it, I'm guessing the detail will come out tomorrow and the press have been briefed on some of the shiny things for the early editions.

[anonymous-user]

fastraxx said:

ChocolateFrog said:

About £75 quid a week after 2 weeks I think.

If you have no savings?

I wouldn't get a penny as savings over £16K

I'd be better off spunking it all on a flash car so i have only £6K in the bank, then selling that post the period of unemployment. Rules are so unfair to those who actually take care of themselves and put money aside for a rainy day.

[Sixpackpert]

ChocolateFrog said:

Sixpackpert said:

jsf said:

p1stonhead said:

Wasn’t the advice always go to work if you can’t work from home?

Shops and hospitality are still closed so I dont get what’s changed at all.

Nothing has changed, it was clearly a kick up the arse for those that should never have closed.

Exactly this. We have not closed. We have 10 employees, 50% were furloughed end of March due to a significant downturn in business because of companies ‘panic’ closing instead of adapting. The last 2 weeks have seen a nice upturn in business, luckily we sell floor tape And queue systems as part of our range, and last week I let all furloughed staff know that they are needed to be back in on Monday. Again we are lucky that we have very spacious offices and warehouse so distancing measures are very easy to enforce.

It won’t get back to normal levels anytime soon but I am confident we will ride this out. Construction firms have been coming back over the past few weeks as well which has helped.

It’s not all doom and gloom, just a different way of working.

Any push back or hesitation from employees?

I guess the childcare question is a genuine one for some.

No childcare issues. No worries as nothing has changed from before they were furloughed, we were distancing and cleaning before.

One lady. Who is my neighbour, needed a bit of reassurance but she is a worrier. She hasn’t left her house in 8 weeks! Luckily the husband is very level headed and have put her mind at rest.

In general they want to work and we can make it safe to do so. All of us are sensible people so the risk is very low...thankfully.

[Einion Yrth]

ChocolateFrog said:

Lordbenny said:

rambo19 said:

When?

The BBC understands that the changes in the guidelines will mean two friends would be able to sit more than two metres apart in a park, and also that sports like golf, tennis, fishing and outdoor watersports will now be possible for people in the same household.

Nice to know my niche digging requirements are catered for.

Would probably have worked better if you hadn't misspelled "dogging". Jus' sayin'

[CoolHands]

i4got said:

The Welsh government have called out Boris for removing the Stay at Home message. They have said that their message remains very much "Stay at Home"** and Boris is risking lives.

** But fill your boots at the garden centre.

Hypocrites.

What if you live in wales but work in England

[anonymous-user]

steveo3002 said:

new job seekers allowance doesnt care what savings but only for around 6 months

Really? When did that change?

[ChocolateFrog]

Einion Yrth said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Lordbenny said:

rambo19 said:

When?

The BBC understands that the changes in the guidelines will mean two friends would be able to sit more than two metres apart in a park, and also that sports like golf, tennis, fishing and outdoor watersports will now be possible for people in the same household.

Nice to know my niche digging requirements are catered for.

Would probably have worked better if you hadn't misspelled "dogging". Jus' sayin'

Tried to catch it before it was quoted, screen all steamed up.

[Vanden Saab]

Red 4 said:

The United Kingdom is no longer united.

England goes its own way while Scotland, Wales and N.I. stay resolutely locked down with no changes to the stay at home message.

This will prove interesting if you live or work near the border or even if you want to visit from England.

That is not actually the case though is it?

[ChocolateFrog]

No mods in tonight then?

[sherbertdip]

jsf said:

fastraxx said:

ChocolateFrog said:

About £75 quid a week after 2 weeks I think.

If you have no savings?

I wouldn't get a penny as savings over £16K

I'd be better off spunking it all on a flash car so i have only £6K in the bank, then selling that post the period of unemployment. Rules are so unfair to those who actually take care of themselves and put money aside for a rainy day.

Assuming you have paid NI as per guidelines then savings are not taken into account.

New style’ JSA
To be eligible for ‘new style’ JSA you’ll need to have worked as an employee and paid Class 1 National Insurance contributions, usually in the last 2 to 3 years. National Insurance credits can also count.

You will not be eligible if you were self-employed and only paid Class 2 National Insurance contributions, unless you were working as a share fisherman or a volunteer development worker.

You’ll also need to:

be 18 or over
be under the State Pension age
not be in full-time education
not be working at the moment, or be working less than 16 hours per week on average
not have an illness or disability which stops you from working
live in England, Scotland or Wales
have the right to work in the UK
Your partner’s income and savings will not affect your claim.

You can get ‘new style’ JSA for up to 182 days (about 6 months). After this you can talk to your work coach about your options.

[cuprabob]

jsf said:

steveo3002 said:

new job seekers allowance doesnt care what savings but only for around 6 months

Really? When did that change?

It hasn't changed, it been that way for years. All that is required is that you've made enough NI contributions in the previous 2 tax years.

[TTmonkey]

Good Luck England
Wales is shut - please stay away

[anonymous-user]

sherbertdip said:

Assuming you have paid NI as per guidelines then savings are not taken into account.

New style’ JSA
To be eligible for ‘new style’ JSA you’ll need to have worked as an employee and paid Class 1 National Insurance contributions, usually in the last 2 to 3 years. National Insurance credits can also count.

You will not be eligible if you were self-employed and only paid Class 2 National Insurance contributions, unless you were working as a share fisherman or a volunteer development worker.

You’ll also need to:

be 18 or over
be under the State Pension age
not be in full-time education
not be working at the moment, or be working less than 16 hours per week on average
not have an illness or disability which stops you from working
live in England, Scotland or Wales
have the right to work in the UK
Your partner’s income and savings will not affect your claim.

You can get ‘new style’ JSA for up to 182 days (about 6 months). After this you can talk to your work coach about your options.

Thanks for the info. When CV19 kicked off i used the online universal credit checker and i wouldnt get a penny, it didn't tell me to look at JSA as an option.

[dangerousB]

Lordbenny said:

rambo19 said:

So Boris never said it, and the bbc is not the law.
God help us.

Good enough for me....I’m off to the lake pronto!

The Angling Trust have said it and if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me (and Lordbenny):-

https://joinanglingtrust.net/individual-anglers-ph...

I'll have to see whether MDL are going to allow access to marinas as we haven't been allowed access to our boats since lockdown. If not, it's going to be freshwater for me - I think it's only common sense anyway - going fishing on your own is hardly a high risk activity.

[Zoobeef]

As above. No savings criteria on the new JSA, just Universal Credit.

[ChocolateFrog]

TTmonkey said:

Good Luck England
Wales is shut - please stay away

I know it's bad, but it's not that bad.


Oh, you said shut.

[Iownacar]

Leptons said:

sim72 said:

It's not all Angry Karens. You'll have people in vulnerable groups who have kids, and people in extended households, in which case it's understandable that they'll be concerned about sending them back.

In that case can My kid have their kids space then so I can go back to work?

Aren't you the one who stopped your child seeing their own mother during lockdown, now you're jumping at the chance to send them back to school?

Seems like it was just about point scoring against your ex then. Terribly sad, for your kid.

[ChocolateFrog]

Iownacar said:

Leptons said:

sim72 said:

It's not all Angry Karens. You'll have people in vulnerable groups who have kids, and people in extended households, in which case it's understandable that they'll be concerned about sending them back.

In that case can My kid have their kids space then so I can go back to work?

Aren't you the one who stopped your child seeing their own mother during lockdown, now you're jumping at the chance to send them back to school?

Seems like it was just about point scoring against your ex then. Terribly sad, for your kid.

Yes pretty sure he was, now can't wait to get them off his hands.