"It's not against the law to be angry"

"It's not against the law to be angry"

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okgo

38,537 posts

200 months

Friday 24th May
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Some grim defence lawyer obviously come up with that pathetic nonsense.

Bluevanman

7,454 posts

195 months

Friday 24th May
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bhstewie said:
He denied using threatening words or behaviour,has he not watched the video he starred in lol

Louis Balfour

26,637 posts

224 months

Friday 24th May
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heebeegeetee said:
Unreal said:
Surprised no-one has mentioned Kenny Noye yet.

Same sort of likelihood of encountering a total nutter but perhaps a useful reminder that rebuking other drivers achieves nothing positive and is much more likely to result in some sort of retaliation. Particularly risky for women.

I'm with the idea of community service for the tt. 500 hours clearing drains or something similarly pleasant.
I think advising people not to use their horn because of Kenneth Noye is a bit ridiculous. #justsaying.
IIRC Noye and the chap he stabbed knew each other and it wasn’t about road rage.

I rarely get out of my car now. The last time being a year or so ago when a cyclist swerved out in front of me and then started claiming I had knocked him off, whilst holding his bike above his head threatening to throw it.

My getting out persuaded him to back off, and he then flagged down passing traffic making the same claims.

All of this was recorded on a dash cam that was in the car when I bought it. Happily still working. I heard nothing from it and suspect the lad was a local “character” trying it on.

Gone are the days of leaping from one’s Capri and exchanging insults or blows with another driver.








Countdown

40,285 posts

198 months

Friday 24th May
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"Banned from driving for 18 month" - ouch!

blueg33

36,530 posts

226 months

Friday 24th May
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I am thinking about adopting the strategy of being more mental than the mental people

Louis Balfour

26,637 posts

224 months

Friday 24th May
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blueg33 said:
I am thinking about adopting the strategy of being more mental than the mental people
You’ll lose. The UK is pure mental.

Yertis

18,182 posts

268 months

Friday 24th May
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Louis Balfour said:
Gone are the days of leaping from one’s Capri and exchanging insults or blows with another driver.
Ironically, evidence of that being a safer time to live. Fisticuffs at worse, rather than being stabbed, shot at, or run over. Afterwards, exchanging compliments "a fine upper-cut you have there" and going on your way.

It wasn't really like that though was it, sadly.

98elise

27,019 posts

163 months

Friday 24th May
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Louis Balfour said:
IIRC Noye and the chap he stabbed knew each other and it wasn’t about road rage.
At the time there was speculation that it was an argument over a drug deal, however Noye was a career criminal and Cameron was a 21 year old kid with no convictions (as far as I know). Not exactly two people moving in the same circles.

In addition if you were planning to force a violent criminal to pull over would you do it in a Bedford Rascal with your 17 year old girlfriend at the wheel?

If they had a connection it would likely have come out in the trial.





Louis Balfour

26,637 posts

224 months

Friday 24th May
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Yertis said:
Louis Balfour said:
Gone are the days of leaping from one’s Capri and exchanging insults or blows with another driver.
Ironically, evidence of that being a safer time to live. Fisticuffs at worse, rather than being stabbed, shot at, or run over. Afterwards, exchanging compliments "a fine upper-cut you have there" and going on your way.

It wasn't really like that though was it, sadly.
Apart from the compliment about the upper cut, yes. Where I grew up anyway.

Also the road was one big track day for young drivers.

But then 2.0L engine was considered a reasonably powerful engine and most of us were in 850-1300cc machines, with power delivery similar to a midrange Kenwood Chef.

But we digress. Getting out one’s car to address a perceived wrong is dangerous territory these days, for several reasons.



Louis Balfour

26,637 posts

224 months

Friday 24th May
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98elise said:
Louis Balfour said:
IIRC Noye and the chap he stabbed knew each other and it wasn’t about road rage.
At the time there was speculation that it was an argument over a drug deal, however Noye was a career criminal and Cameron was a 21 year old kid with no convictions (as far as I know). Not exactly two people moving in the same circles.

In addition if you were planning to force a violent criminal to pull over would you do it in a Bedford Rascal with your 17 year old girlfriend at the wheel?

If they had a connection it would likely have come out in the trial.
Wasn’t Cameron a doorman?

I can well imagine why Noye might have claimed road rage. Murder for non-payment of a drugs debt I could imagine being sanctioned more harshly.

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Randy Winkman

16,534 posts

191 months

Friday 24th May
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Louis Balfour said:
98elise said:
Louis Balfour said:
IIRC Noye and the chap he stabbed knew each other and it wasn’t about road rage.
At the time there was speculation that it was an argument over a drug deal, however Noye was a career criminal and Cameron was a 21 year old kid with no convictions (as far as I know). Not exactly two people moving in the same circles.

In addition if you were planning to force a violent criminal to pull over would you do it in a Bedford Rascal with your 17 year old girlfriend at the wheel?

If they had a connection it would likely have come out in the trial.
Wasn’t Cameron a doorman?

I can well imagine why Noye might have claimed road rage. Murder for non-payment of a drugs debt I could imagine being sanctioned more harshly.

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I've read a couple of books on Noye and just looked on line and I'm not aware of a link between the 2 of them prior to the murder.

Louis Balfour

26,637 posts

224 months

Friday 24th May
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Randy Winkman said:
Louis Balfour said:
98elise said:
Louis Balfour said:
IIRC Noye and the chap he stabbed knew each other and it wasn’t about road rage.
At the time there was speculation that it was an argument over a drug deal, however Noye was a career criminal and Cameron was a 21 year old kid with no convictions (as far as I know). Not exactly two people moving in the same circles.

In addition if you were planning to force a violent criminal to pull over would you do it in a Bedford Rascal with your 17 year old girlfriend at the wheel?

If they had a connection it would likely have come out in the trial.
Wasn’t Cameron a doorman?

I can well imagine why Noye might have claimed road rage. Murder for non-payment of a drugs debt I could imagine being sanctioned more harshly.

I
I've read a couple of books on Noye and just looked on line and I'm not aware of a link between the 2 of them prior to the murder.
TBF i don’t recall the details. It may have been a commentator on the Essex Boys situation, Bernard O’Mahoney or similar. It wasn’t in the news.

PurpleTurtle

7,154 posts

146 months

Friday 24th May
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Gotta say I didn’t expect the 18 month driving ban.

Hopefully people will be less road ragey as a result!

Super Sonic

5,467 posts

56 months

Friday 24th May
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okgo said:
Some grim defence lawyer obviously come up with that pathetic nonsense.
It says he defended himself.

iphonedyou

9,293 posts

159 months

Friday 24th May
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bhstewie said:
Misogynist little wker. Hopefully he learns a lesson - but you don't get on like that without the problem being buried deep within you.

bitchstewie

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52,340 posts

212 months

Saturday 25th May
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iphonedyou said:
Misogynist little wker. Hopefully he learns a lesson - but you don't get on like that without the problem being buried deep within you.
Reading the article there does at least seem to be a touch of remorse rather than the whole "It's not against the law to be angry" crap.

pork911

7,306 posts

185 months

Saturday 25th May
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bhstewie said:
Reading the article there does at least seem to be a touch of remorse rather than the whole "It's not against the law to be angry" crap.
At a sentencing hearing apparently.

RC1807

12,639 posts

170 months

Saturday 25th May
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Horrible man. The woman must have been terrified,

Surprised the DM article left the suspended sentence and driving ban info until the very end. That would have been better placed earlier in the text as a deterrent to so many other road ragers in future.



(I’m originally from Bournemouth. The increase in (sexual) assaults and, last night, 2 stabbings (1 death) on the beach makes it a very sad place to read about.)

Edited by RC1807 on Saturday 25th May 09:29

Alickadoo

1,851 posts

25 months

Saturday 25th May
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And the moral of all this?

Perhaps don't react to someone else's driving

and don't react if they react.