Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

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vikingaero

10,561 posts

171 months

Thursday 23rd May
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alangla said:
Vanden Saab said:
ScotHill said:
Snow and Rocks said:
It's the equivalent of canceling a Holyrood election because Aberdeenshire schools had an in service day.
A one-off day is one thing, a week into a long summer holiday where many people will be expected to be away from home is another. There's no way they would have scheduled it for the 1st August.

Not saying the SNP's media reaction to it is proportionate though.
And yet a few hours before Sunak announced it...
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/12726420/ris...
link said:
Mr Flynn said: "Speculation is rife, so I think the public deserve a clear answer to a simple question - Does the Prime Minister intend to call a summer general election? Or is he feart?"
A case of “be careful what you wish for”?
I love John Swinney! What a complete moron. It's not like there are postal votes or that he is effectively the mayor of a "city council" with a population of 5m, compared to London with....

Yet this cretrin think's he is the MVP and gets press time: "Mr Swinney, who became leader of the SNP earlier this month, said the Conservative government had done "enormous damage" to Scotland." Health, Education, SNP finances, circularity, FERRIES! Etc The SNP doesn't need anyone to damage Scotland as they are doing it themselves.

Jasey_

4,945 posts

180 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Also that prick swiney needs to look at Scotland.

Aberdeenshire breaks for holidays on the 5th July.

Southern only interested in the wky central belt bastids.

jonny996

2,625 posts

219 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Hill92 said:
Gaelic units and schools don't exist in the Central Belt to teach Gaelic. They exist because pushy middle class parents see them as just another way to side step catchment areas and get their kids into high performing schools of their choice (since the kids they're worried about mixing with won't be applying for Gaelic education).
This is 100% true

halo34

2,517 posts

201 months

Thursday 23rd May
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jonny996 said:
Hill92 said:
Gaelic units and schools don't exist in the Central Belt to teach Gaelic. They exist because pushy middle class parents see them as just another way to side step catchment areas and get their kids into high performing schools of their choice (since the kids they're worried about mixing with won't be applying for Gaelic education).
This is 100% true
This - even in the Highlands its the same thing, people pushing to get kids into the Gaelic schools with better teacher ratios. Its a farce and a language that should die naturally, given it cant even be adapted to the modern world.

NoddyonNitrous

2,139 posts

234 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Matheson's sentencing this Thursday.

wc98

10,564 posts

142 months

Thursday 23rd May
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sherman said:
Short Grain said:
Evercross said:
That is IMO going to be the big kicker for them. The General Election is a free hit against the SNP for all the soft Yessers and the hardened ALBA-types. The SNP 1 Green 2 Holyrood election types (aka ZedLeg) will also still be sore at the bad-faith dropping of the Bute House agreement.

This election isn't coming at the best time for the Conservatives, but it is absolutely coming at the worst time for the SNP.

Speedbump Swinney strikes again.
Not an expert at Scottish Politics but was it Swinney I saw frothing at the mouth earlier, because the tories 'disrespected Scotland and the SNP', by calling the election?
That was him.
Its shocking having an election during the scottish school holidays.
The janitors will need to open the school hall (polling place) when they should be on holiday.

The poor mans only been in his job a month. Hows he going to know how to run an election campaign.


Edited by sherman on Wednesday 22 May 22:44
The man is an utter ballbag. The only good thing i can associate with him is he helped inspire my younger sister to do her PhD due to his incompetence when he was in charge of education. She came away from a meeting with him wondering how someone so clueless could be in the position he was.

alangla

4,929 posts

183 months

Thursday 23rd May
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wc98 said:
The man is an utter ballbag. The only good thing i can associate with him is he helped inspire my younger sister to do her PhD due to his incompetence when he was in charge of education. She came away from a meeting with him wondering how someone so clueless could be in the position he was.
I’m intrigued, what was the title of the thesis? “Correlations between ineptitude and attainment of high office amongst Scottish politicians” ?

wc98

10,564 posts

142 months

Thursday 23rd May
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irc said:
Roderick Spode said:
I've contacted an artisan producer of popcorn for a bulk order. Good to support local businesses.
Which made me think what is in the complete UK election night kit

Step 1. Book the following day off as holiday and thereafter every year celebrate the election date as Independence (from the SNP) day.

Whisky for a small dram for every SNP loss.

Popcorn.

Paracetamol for the almost certain hangover.

Ensure lounge carpet is freshly hoovered to keep clothes clean whilst rolling about the floor laughing.
biglaugh I am virtually tee total these days, but for this i will make an exception and i am good to go (don't judge the choices too harshly, i am poor).

Leithen

11,144 posts

269 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Any celebrations of the demise of the SNP ought to involve Arran whisky.

S600BSB

5,261 posts

108 months

Thursday 23rd May
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I was hoping a while ago that Labour might take 10 seats north of the border at the GE. What do we think now - 20 or maybe even 30?

wc98

10,564 posts

142 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Leithen said:
Any celebrations of the demise of the SNP ought to involve Arran whisky.
Noted.

irc

7,572 posts

138 months

Thursday 23rd May
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wc98 said:
Leithen said:
Any celebrations of the demise of the SNP ought to involve Arran whisky.
Noted.
As it happens the two bottles I currently have in the house are from Arran and Islay. Appropriate for indy night


wc98

10,564 posts

142 months

Thursday 23rd May
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S600BSB said:
I was hoping a while ago that Labour might take 10 seats north of the border at the GE. What do we think now - 20 or maybe even 30?
I would say definitely 20 and i am hoping for 30. Sadly i am old enough to remember the last Labour regime up here , between that and the lack of quality in senior members today (every party is in the same boat on this front) i can't vote for them this time around.

Roderick Spode

3,182 posts

51 months

Thursday 23rd May
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wc98 said:
biglaugh I am virtually tee total these days, but for this i will make an exception and i am good to go (don't judge the choices too harshly, i am poor).
I believe you're in the same part of the world as me, so election night party at mine. I'll get a brew on.


Roderick Spode

3,182 posts

51 months

Thursday 23rd May
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ScotHill said:
Snow and Rocks said:
It's the equivalent of canceling a Holyrood election because Aberdeenshire schools had an in service day.
A one-off day is one thing, a week into a long summer holiday where many people will be expected to be away from home is another. There's no way they would have scheduled it for the 1st August.

Not saying the SNP's media reaction to it is proportionate though.
It's within the Northern Irish school holidays. It's an outrage I tells thee! Expect Michelle O'Neill bleating at a million miles an hour into the nearest camera.

irc

7,572 posts

138 months

Thursday 23rd May
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I'll be disappointed if Labour get under 30. Hoping for somewhere around 35. Electoral Calculus predicted Labour 27 when their polling was 32.7. It was 39 in the most recent poll

wc98

10,564 posts

142 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Roderick Spode said:
I believe you're in the same part of the world as me, so election night party at mine. I'll get a brew on.

Works for me thumbup

A.J.M

7,949 posts

188 months

Thursday 23rd May
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irc said:
wc98 said:
Leithen said:
Any celebrations of the demise of the SNP ought to involve Arran whisky.
Noted.
As it happens the two bottles I currently have in the house are from Arran and Islay. Appropriate for indy night

I’ve got the one on the left.
Plus a regular Arran 10 year.
A talisker Skye.
The hearach.

May get a Rassay again, that was a lovely one.

This could get messy hehe

I’ll need to break the habit of a lifetime and vote Labour to get rid of the snp for my area.

Evercross

6,105 posts

66 months

Thursday 23rd May
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wc98 said:
Swinney is an utter ballbag. The only good thing I can associate with him is he helped inspire my younger sister to do her PhD due to his incompetence when he was in charge of education. She came away from a meeting with him wondering how someone so clueless could be in the position he was.
She has my utmost sympathy having to spend time in his presence in a professional capacity.

I was in several meetings with him present back in 2016 when the SQA were setting the scene for their forthcoming disasters and I came to the conclusion then that his entire modus operandi was to say whatever he had been told to say in the most bland and disarming manner. I could see even then that he was just a puppet. The SQA had fed him a pile of complete falsehoods and he just parroted them in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary from everyone else in the room, except the shortly-after-to-be-dismissed director of the SQA.

The impression I came away with was that the SNP government were just freewheeling (something I have since referenced many times in here) and day-to-day policy held absolutely no interest for them, hence we are now in the situation that a decade of neglect and lack of interest in accountability eventually leads to.

CambsBill

1,950 posts

180 months

Thursday 23rd May
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NoddyonNitrous said:
Matheson's sentencing this Thursday.
Standards Committee recommend both a financial penalty and 27 day suspension. Not unanimously - two SNP members voted against the suspension rolleyes

The recommendation now goes to MSP's for approval. Any bets which way that'll go?