cancer cure found - but there's no money in it

cancer cure found - but there's no money in it

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EDLT

15,421 posts

208 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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hornet said:
EDLT said:
That website looks entirely believable, and not a tarted up blog for tin foil hat wearers.
Be ironic if it turned out tin foil headgear gave you cancer...
I was told tin foil gives you alzheimers... somehow.

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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dmulally said:
My twin brother has HIV and I remember years ago having a rant about how they will never find a cure as there is no money in it. He told me that he believes that for the small team/person who crack the case there will be a nobel prize in it for them and that will be incentive enough.

Having spent most of last year going through radio therapy for cancer I found it was relatively inexpensive compared to what my brother has to cough up for ongoing meds.
Curing HIV is, as I understand it, substantially harder even than curing the common cold, due to the speed at which it mutates. That we've managed to come so far with treatment that HIV can be managed for most people is a miracle in itself.

dmulally

6,216 posts

182 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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davepoth said:
dmulally said:
My twin brother has HIV and I remember years ago having a rant about how they will never find a cure as there is no money in it. He told me that he believes that for the small team/person who crack the case there will be a nobel prize in it for them and that will be incentive enough.

Having spent most of last year going through radio therapy for cancer I found it was relatively inexpensive compared to what my brother has to cough up for ongoing meds.
Curing HIV is, as I understand it, substantially harder even than curing the common cold, due to the speed at which it mutates. That we've managed to come so far with treatment that HIV can be managed for most people is a miracle in itself.
He has had it for 11 years. Zero viral load and has next to no side effects. I almost always forget he has it TBH.

DonkeyApple

56,029 posts

171 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Some basic realities:

Large numbers of people with disposable income are actually a bit thick.

Large numbers of people who are ill will buy anything that might cure them.

Large numbers of people will believe anything you say if you make it sound like you know what you are saying.

Large numbers of people have failed in life and the human brain seek to lay the blame not on laziness or on bad luck but seeks excuses and conspiracies to explain the failure and avoid the truth.

All of these groups are easy to spank for money. Just find the dream that fits their problem and their wallet opens up and you can milk the cow for years.

Businesses like MTR serve this community of fools.

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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I've often wondered about a cure for cancer and world mortality rates? I.e would there be a population issue if no one died of cancer anymore..? In rare tinfoil hat wearing moments I considered that one of the reasons behind there 'never being a cure' discovered

That and are the staff at 'Area 51 immortal' ... smile

Guybrush

4,359 posts

208 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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A cure for the common cold was found years ago, but it got bought out...also on MSN several months ago it was reported that a cure for the common cold had been found, but the article disappeared quickly and I can't now find it... (does anyone remember?); but there's still hope on the cold front: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/a-cure-f... and http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16165605

8Ace

2,697 posts

200 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
Some basic realities:

Large numbers of people with disposable income are actually a bit thick.
Spot on.

Perfect example:

Generic ibuprofen 200mg - 20p for 16.

Nurofen tablets (Ibuprofen 200mg) £1.70 for 16.

Nurofen Tension headache (or Nurofen Migraine pain) (Ibuprofen Lysine 342 mg, of which, active ingredient is Ibuprofen 200mg) - £2.20 for 12 (12 FFS!).

It's the last bit that I think gets close to being deliberately deceptive.

hornet

6,333 posts

252 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
All of these groups are easy to spank for money. Just find the dream that fits their problem and their wallet opens up and you can milk the cow for years.

Businesses like MTR serve this community of fools.
That website is a business?! Yikes. Some of the stuff on there is MENTAL.

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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According to Wikipedia this drug has been patented for use as an anti cancer treatment.

DonkeyApple

56,029 posts

171 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Marf said:
According to Wikipedia this drug has been patented for use as an anti cancer treatment.
But I could patent my left plum as a cure for cancer. It would certainly assist in marketing this exciting new, low cost, cure to gullible young women wink

Oakey

27,619 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
All of these groups are easy to spank for money. Just find the dream that fits their problem and their wallet opens up and you can milk the cow for years.

Businesses like MTR serve this community of fools.
Like this dude?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislaw_Burzynski


Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
Marf said:
According to Wikipedia this drug has been patented for use as an anti cancer treatment.
But I could patent my left plum as a cure for cancer. It would certainly assist in marketing this exciting new, low cost, cure to gullible young women wink


The fruitcake article states

"Pharmaceutical companies are not investing in this research because DCA method cannot be patented, and without a patent they cannot make money."

It has been patented, the patent number is on the Wikipedia article about the drug. I was simply refuting the fruitcake article and not asserting the efficacy of the drug as a cancer cure

DonkeyApple

56,029 posts

171 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Marf said:
The fruitcake article states

"Pharmaceutical companies are not investing in this research because DCA method cannot be patented, and without a patent they cannot make money."

It has been patented, the patent number is on the Wikipedia article about the drug. I was simply refuting the fruitcake article and not asserting the efficacy of the drug as a cancer cure
Don't panic Marf, I wasn't suggesting you trialled my new wonder cure. smile

People write this junk as it grabs huge numbers of gullible and vulnerable eyeballs which they then either sell the details of or rape them directly.

When it comes to false cures for dangerous illnesses such people should really be executed as murderers.

What is also completely daft is to find that people really think that the scientists are all so evil that they would shelve a wonder cure. One thing that is clear about scientists is that they have bigger egos than IT workers and being the chap who cured cancer would give them the god like status many crave wink Many also have enormous ethical beliefs that would prevent them keeping quiet.

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
Don't panic Marf, I wasn't suggesting you trialled my new wonder cure. smile
Awww, and there's me thinking you had the cure for my blasted cold frown

eldar

21,880 posts

198 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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Marf said:
Awww, and there's me thinking you had the cure for my blasted cold frown
I have a cure for the common cold. 1/4 bottle scotch, juice of 2 lemons, 120g homey in a pint of boiling water. 3 doses will effect a cure*.

  • probably not, but you forget about the cold.

DonkeyApple

56,029 posts

171 months

Tuesday 20th March 2012
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eldar said:
I have a cure for the common cold. 1/4 bottle scotch, juice of 2 lemons, 120g homey in a pint of boiling water. 3 doses will effect a cure*.

  • probably not, but you forget about the cold.
G&Ts from sun up until bottle gone kills man flu stone dead. biggrin