Woman arrested for nicking food from Tesco's bins

Woman arrested for nicking food from Tesco's bins

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Mojooo

12,811 posts

182 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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carmonk said:
Whatever happened to common sense? Why is it seen as a good thing to replace it with volumes of ridiculous legislation and waste the taxpayers' money on this kind of st?
what legislation are you referring to?

southendpier

5,275 posts

231 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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refuse laws and the disposal of waste are serious. The fact it is a supermarket is irrelavant.

Do you want people going through BNFLs 'bins' for things they may have use of?

Derek Smith

45,869 posts

250 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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southendpier said:
refuse laws and the disposal of waste are serious. The fact it is a supermarket is irrelavant.

Do you want people going through BNFLs 'bins' for things they may have use of?
I think the point is that it was not BNFL's bins. That's where common sense comes in.

There was a case that did the rounds in London in the mid/late 70s where a newsagent had removed the front cover from a magazine - to obtain repayment from the distributor - and then put the rest of the magazine in the waste. Some bored bobbie nicked a chap who had retrieved it but the newsagent would not support a prosecution, suggesting that they didn't care what happened to it. Not to be outdone the station sergeant - this pre-CPS - decided that they, the police, would still prosecute the chap as it was an important bit of law.

They tried to suggest that the local council owned the magazine as it had been placed in a bin, one of theirs hired to the shop. In the meantime, a couple of young PCs, wanting - and succeeding beyond their wildest dreams - to be noticed decided that they would get some of this and before the case went to court nicked a load of vagrants for stealing newspapers that had similarly been thrown away. So Bow Street nick was full of vagrants on charges of theft of newspapers.

A brief was in the cells at the time - not all that normal in those days - and was pushed around a bit by these vagrants but was privvy to the thoughts of the station sergeant as regards the PCs' behaviour, competance and common sense.

The brief was part of the criminal practice that was representing the original chap. He mentioned his experiences and the brief for the first case asked for the station sergeant to attend court as a witness for the defence and demanded an interview for a statement, which was refused.

It went to court but the stipe was approached before the trial started and the brief facts were put to him. He threw it out.

I was up at Bow Street later that week and up before the same stipe. I was told by the court PC to ensure that everything I said was spot on as the stipe had it in for the police. My case was two protitutes - mother and daughter - kiteing two cheques. I had everything arranged but, when giving my evidence - they'd gone not guilty but then changed their pleas after giving their own evidence so I had to give my full evidence rather than brief facts - I knocked my file off the top of the railing around the box and all the papers got mixed up.

I got a bit confused, well very confused, and the stipe, in exasperation, said that he was going to ask the defendants two questions and if, by the time he'd finished, I hadn't sorted out which cheque was which, he was going to hold me in contempt.

I picked one cheque out for each woman based on nothing and ran with that. Everyone seemed happy with the result. When I went back into the cells to finish the paperwork I asked the court PC what was up with the stipe and he told me. A brief backed him up and there was a major bit of circumstantial evidence to support it.

A little later the Guildhall Justice Rooms and the Mansion House MC made it known that they would not consider any cases of theft from bins.

whoami

13,151 posts

242 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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southendpier said:
refuse laws and the disposal of waste are serious. The fact it is a supermarket is irrelavant.

Do you want people going through BNFLs 'bins' for things they may have use of?
Yes, that's exactly the same thing. rolleyes

DonkeyApple

56,035 posts

171 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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carmonk said:
Whatever happened to common sense? Why is it seen as a good thing to replace it with volumes of ridiculous legislation and waste the taxpayers' money on this kind of st?
Trouble is, the chances are if someone get's ill from eating out of Tesco bins in today's world they would probably try and sue for some compo.

southendpier

5,275 posts

231 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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whoami said:
Yes, that's exactly the same thing. rolleyes
WHOOSH wink

Carrot

7,294 posts

204 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Martial Arts Man said:
The flip side is hordes of people loitering around their bins every night waiting for free food.

They may even have some duty of care or some nonsense to consider.
Slightly off topic - but at an office I used to work at years ago - if they had a meeting with food provided and there was food left over at the end of it, they used to leave it out in the canteen area for the staff to finish off.

One day, some stupid fat bint complained that one of the food items contained something that she was allergic to, and from there on the management decided that all the spare food much be disposed of securely for health and safety reasons rolleyes

So although I think what has happened to the lady in the newspaper article is harsh, it seems to be a problem with society not taking responsibility for their own actions that caused all this to come about. What if she had sued because there was a problem with it etc...

Sad really.

carmonk

7,910 posts

189 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Mojooo said:
carmonk said:
Whatever happened to common sense? Why is it seen as a good thing to replace it with volumes of ridiculous legislation and waste the taxpayers' money on this kind of st?
what legislation are you referring to?
Legislation in general. About 4,000 new laws have been created in the past 10 years, on top of the countless thousands we already have. It is not possible for anyone, let alone a layman, to bear in mind more than a tiny fraction of these. The majority need to be scrapped and the justice system revised to focus on common sense, as one day I have no doubt it will be.

southendpier said:
refuse laws and the disposal of waste are serious. The fact it is a supermarket is irrelavant.

Do you want people going through BNFLs 'bins' for things they may have use of?
BNFL doesn't throw anything more dangerous away in its bins than Tesco, in fact I'd say the contents of its bins would be less dangerous on balance. I presume you're referring to someone illegally entering a restricted site, illegally entering a building and somehow forcing access to one or most waste containers. Not really comparable, as BNFL don't 'throw' that kind of waste away.

DonkeyApple said:
carmonk said:
Whatever happened to common sense? Why is it seen as a good thing to replace it with volumes of ridiculous legislation and waste the taxpayers' money on this kind of st?
Trouble is, the chances are if someone get's ill from eating out of Tesco bins in today's world they would probably try and sue for some compo.
You're right, and they'd probably win too. Which is why I'm talking about common sense and the law and how they are drawing further and further apart.