Coronavirus - the killer flu that will wipe us out? (Vol. 2)

Coronavirus - the killer flu that will wipe us out? (Vol. 2)

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ChocolateFrog

25,872 posts

175 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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Just been in lidl and they told a man to put all but 2 loaves of bread back, he was trying to buy 6 loaves.

I felt guilty buying 4 bog rolls.

emperorburger

1,484 posts

68 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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ferrisbueller said:
This thread is amazing. Any bans yet?
Jury is still out on one suspect, although I reckon he will pop up in a while with the usual Twitter diarrhoea storm.

TheJimi

25,077 posts

245 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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Something that worries me almost more than anything else about this thing, is the concept of asymptomatic transmission.

My parents are both over 60s and my Dad is T1 diabetic and has been since he was 21.  I’ve deliberately been keeping away from them because I’m exposed to more people, at different locations, more of the time than they are, so I obviously want to (as far as possible) take myself out of their risk factor.

I know some of you are in similar boats – how are you intending on managing contact in this situation?

I really don't want to not see them, but equally....

Agammemnon

1,628 posts

60 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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minimoog said:
Red 4 stated that he knows there is 'a lot going on behind the scenes' and he knows this because his wife is an NHS manager.
I'm sure Mrs 4 is a lady of great probity who would respect professional boundaries & not blurt confidences outside the office.

As such I would query how much he actually knows.

bodhi

10,755 posts

231 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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Our company have just said pretty much everyone in EMEA and the US has to work from home for the next 4 weeks - apart from, bizarrely, our Belgian office, which is remaining open as usual.

I've already been working from home for 3 days now working on an RFP, so am not worried about the productivity side - more the going stir crazy with only the cat to talk to. Never mind, as long as I stay healthy and the golf course remains open, I should cope.

Oh, and for the "but look at Italy" crowd of bedwetters:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51858987

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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98elise said:
rival38 said:
Various sources ( inc The Times ) report that Iran is excavating mass graves visible from space. Perhaps this is balls, and they are digging some huge new swimming pools. But opposition parties claim the death toll is 3.5k and climbing fast.
The graveyard is not visible from space, its visible on Google earth.

It's an existing graveyard for a large city, and has roads etc that have been there for years.

It may be that they are excavating graves in preparation for burials, but it's not massive holes in the ground in the middle of nowhere.
Putting on my "ex-muslim" cap again in this thread...

It should also be noted that in some sects, Islamic burial is a large trench in the ground with bricks separating each individual. It's part of the ritual to lay the body wrapped in cloth(with prayers printed on them) directly on the ground, then lay tiles and wet cement or a cement slab over the top.

My father(of Iranian descent) was buried in this manner at an Islamic cemetery in Spain.

So this is unlikely to simply be a big hole in the ground where bodies will be dumped as some seem to be attempting to assert.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 13th March 12:13

Flumpo

3,851 posts

75 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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emperorburger said:
ferrisbueller said:
This thread is amazing. Any bans yet?
Jury is still out on one suspect, although I reckon he will pop up in a while with the usual Twitter diarrhoea storm.
Pretty sure he’s banned. I’ve had several emails this morning saying this:


Piha

7,150 posts

94 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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Sam.M said:
Piha said:
Sam.M said:
Piha said:
It is starting to appear that the wider UK population, organisations and companies have rejected Boris' plans.

Everywhere you look organisations/companies/individuals are taking a decision that goes further than what the Gov has laid out. I don't wish to politicise this event but when we consider that our PM has been caught lying time and again, then I wonder if this comes as a surprise to anyone other than the PM's supporters?
I'm not a supporter of the PM, I couldn't bring myself to vote for him in the general. I couldn't help but feel the press conference yesterday was well delivered and measured and unlike the other blond world leader he's so often compared to he is taking the scientific viewpoint and deferring to our experts.

I can understand why businesses are taking action now, even if the virus is not deadly to the majority of the working age population it could knock people out of work for a week or two. Companies are trying to ensure continuity of business.

To assert that they're doing this out of any true concern for individual welfare is a little naive in my view.
The thing is, it's not just businesses that are rejecting the Gov's advice. Individuals, schools, sports organisations and more are all doing the same. It could be argued that it is a bit of panic that is starting to appear but I'm sure these organisations are getting their advise from an informed source.
What makes you sure of that?
The Premier League have released a statement that states they were talking to the Gov, therefore we should assume that they have read the same medical analysis as the Gov. Do you think they would look at the current medical advise and just simply ignore it? Contrary to the above statement, they have little to benefit by stopping the matches, in fact it would think they will lose a substantial amount of money.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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There seems to be a few vocal posters very trusting of Boris’s experts who were completely distrusting of experts over climate change or brexit or even other countries medical experts if their advice differs. hehe

Whoozit

3,641 posts

271 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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Puggit said:
Premier League, Football League suspended until April.
There is a silver lining after all.

98elise

26,891 posts

163 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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Red 4 said:
citizensm1th said:
Chief medical officer or some NHS middle manager hmmmmmm its a hard one to decide who might be best qualified to give advice
OK. Why are other countries' CMOs wrong ?

Why aren't other countries following our game plan ?

Edited by Red 4 on Friday 13th March 11:58
They are making decisions based on their country and the data available to them just as we are. They run different health systems, different infrastructure, and may be different approaches to crisis management.

Nobody has the single best way of dealing with it.

Personally I'm happy to go with whatever the CMO of this country thinks we should be doing. Blindly following another country because you don't like the PM is not a sensible approach IMO.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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Piha said:
The Premier League have released a statement that states they were talking to the Gov, therefore we should assume that they have read the same medical analysis as the Gov. Do you think they would look at the current medical advise and just simply ignore it? Contrary to the above statement, they have little to benefit by stopping the matches, in fact it would think they will lose a substantial amount of money.
So they're getting advice from the government, then ignoring it?

bstb3

4,156 posts

160 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
Just been in lidl and they told a man to put all but 2 loaves of bread back, he was trying to buy 6 loaves.

I felt guilty buying 4 bog rolls.
Poor old Slow. Yesterday he couldn't get his Soap, now his mums guest house will be without bread too. He just has no luck frown

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

56 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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Agammemnon said:
Dont like rolls said:
What IS daft is thinking the only people in the NHS who know anything are Doctors and Nurses
I do see epidemiology as a medical rather than management topic, tbf.
Yes it is.

Do you think a manager of such a department might know a lot more about the present situation than a SR in A&E for example ?
Do you think a long serving Medical Rep who has specialised for years might know more about a specific subject than a GP ?

(the above are just examples)

Agammemnon

1,628 posts

60 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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Dont like rolls said:
Yes it is.

Do you think a manager of such a department might know a lot more about the present situation than a SR in A&E for example ?
Do you think a long serving Medical Rep who has specialised for years might know more about a specific subject than a GP ?

(the above are just examples)
A further example would be the CMO & CSO presumably with their respective staffs knowing more than an (allegedly senior) NHS manager.

I like this game- your turn. smile

minimoog

6,905 posts

221 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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Agammemnon said:
I'm sure Mrs 4 is a lady of great probity who would respect professional boundaries & not blurt confidences outside the office.

As such I would query how much he actually knows.
I deliberately didn't include 'stupid' alongside obtuse and illiterate. Don't make me go back and edit it.

Scrump

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