Free stuff for asylum seekers charity goes bust.

Free stuff for asylum seekers charity goes bust.

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Soovy

35,829 posts

273 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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princeperch said:
Soovy said:
I represented applicants.

Thus the reason I know most of them to be liars and thieves.
Interesting. I work for the 'good' side. Our paths might have crossed in the past..
I doubt it, I gave up immigartion work in 1997.

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

159 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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Eric Mc said:
boobles said:
You have to ask yourself one question though. Would some of these countries make YOU feel welcome & let you live there & live of the tax payer? I very much doubt it. I also couldn't care about skin colour or religion but I do disagree with people coming ovwer to this country & living of me, I:E the tax payer. I also disagree with "British" people living of the tax payer.
I wonder what the 300,000 Brits who live in Spain think?
I expect they'd realise that this thread is only relevant to non-EU citizens claiming asylum in the EU, not EU citizens moving freely between EU countries.

Eric Mc

122,199 posts

267 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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The thread title is indicative that this should be what the thread is about - but other posters were making comments about "non-Brits" which was why I made MY comment.

The bulk of non-UK citizens (whether EU or non-EU) living and working in the UK are here totally legitimately.

Rotary Madness

2,285 posts

188 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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otolith said:
Eric Mc said:
bassist of emotions


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That looks remarkably like CW7 scratchchin

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

159 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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Eric Mc said:
The thread title is indicative that this should be what the thread is about - but other posters were making comments about "non-Brits" which was why I made MY comment.

The bulk of non-UK citizens (whether EU or non-EU) living and working in the UK are here totally legitimately.
How do you know that. The government certainly don't seem to know how many illegals there are so I wonder where you get your info from?

boobles

15,241 posts

217 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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Caulkhead said:
Eric Mc said:
boobles said:
You have to ask yourself one question though. Would some of these countries make YOU feel welcome & let you live there & live of the tax payer? I very much doubt it. I also couldn't care about skin colour or religion but I do disagree with people coming ovwer to this country & living of me, I:E the tax payer. I also disagree with "British" people living of the tax payer.
I wonder what the 300,000 Brits who live in Spain think?
I expect they'd realise that this thread is only relevant to non-EU citizens claiming asylum in the EU, not EU citizens moving freely between EU countries.
yes I am basing my views on "Illegal" Immigrants The ones that have no right being here etc & claiming of you & I.

Eric Mc

122,199 posts

267 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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Caulkhead said:
Eric Mc said:
The thread title is indicative that this should be what the thread is about - but other posters were making comments about "non-Brits" which was why I made MY comment.

The bulk of non-UK citizens (whether EU or non-EU) living and working in the UK are here totally legitimately.
How do you know that. The government certainly don't seem to know how many illegals there are so I wonder where you get your info from?
Because EU citizens do not need to notify their presence in the UK (apart from Roumanians and Bulgarians who want to work here - and that restriction wil;l be ending soon), no record is kept or indeed needs to be kept of the absolute number of people who are here from the other 25 EU countries. The number must be very large though as those countries include some of the largest in Europe - France, Italy, Germany, Spain etc.

It stands to reason that there MUST be a large number of people from those EU countries here. Add on to that the known non-EU people who are here on work visas, student visas and LEGAL asylum seekers etc then the balance who are here illegally surely must be a much smaller number.

Eric Mc

122,199 posts

267 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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boobles said:
Caulkhead said:
Eric Mc said:
boobles said:
You have to ask yourself one question though. Would some of these countries make YOU feel welcome & let you live there & live of the tax payer? I very much doubt it. I also couldn't care about skin colour or religion but I do disagree with people coming ovwer to this country & living of me, I:E the tax payer. I also disagree with "British" people living of the tax payer.
I wonder what the 300,000 Brits who live in Spain think?
I expect they'd realise that this thread is only relevant to non-EU citizens claiming asylum in the EU, not EU citizens moving freely between EU countries.
yes I am basing my views on "Illegal" Immigrants The ones that have no right being here etc & claiming of you & I.
Unfortunately you referred to "Brits" which seemed to exclude all non-Brits - legal or otherwise - working or otherwise.

boobles

15,241 posts

217 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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My apologies. Just Illegal Immigrants & I should have made this clear.

Eric Mc

122,199 posts

267 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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100% in agreement with kicking out the illegals - and prosecuting heavilly the employers who make use of (i.e. exploit) them.

Indeed, the laws for prosecuting employers of illegal immigrants are already very tough and the fines extremely onerous. The problem is that there are far too many employers out there actively seeking out - or even importing - illegals.

Think Chinese cockle-pickers.

We don't really have enough resources allocated to pursuing this effectively. Onl;y a week or so ago, the Met and Hampshire police raided a number of brothels which were being run by Chinese immigrant (some legal and some illegal) and who were trafficing young girls from China to act as prostitutes.

It's a massive problem.



Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 13th July 16:55

Chainguy

4,381 posts

202 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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Eric Mc said:
I wonder what the 300,000 Brits who live in Spain think?
I lived in Spain for a few years. Like the other Brits I knew, I paid taxes there, never got into any trouble, kept my home looking nice and employed local labour to help with this, learned the language (it's been many, many years, the 70's really, since Brits went there and never learned Spanish) and overall made a positive contribution to my community, both the little British cluster I lived in and the wider one.

In fact, I was chatting on FB earlier to my Spainish SAR pilot mate, who was remembering some of the things we all got up to. Glad to say, a lot of us who are no longer there are greatly missed indeed. I'm proud of that.

Aside from the incredibly small percentage of media exagerated gangster types, thats really pretty much how it is for the huge majority of Brits living there.

Edited to add, as a welcoming nation, as long as you're positively contributing and not there to take the wee, the Spanish are a fantastic bunch, real 10/10, whose family values have a lot in common with the idealised 'british society of the 1950's' than you might guess.

Edited by Chainguy on Wednesday 13th July 21:23

Pommygranite

14,281 posts

218 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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Soovy said:
Wouldn't know about that, I'm a barrister.
You make coffee?







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