Kill Joys at it again! Not on OUR Doorstep..

Kill Joys at it again! Not on OUR Doorstep..

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onyx39

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11,145 posts

152 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Apparently Dunsfold Park (which correct me if I am wrong IS still an Airfield) want to increase the number of flights for 3 WEEKS during the Olympics... 3 WEEKS... Not months or years.

But the locals are apparently alarmed about the extra noise caused by engines running on the ground.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe they used to build Harriers here for a number of years and they are not exactly quiet!

People who move to an area closed to an Airfield (or Race Circuit for that matter) and complain about the noise really make my piss boil!!

People of East London have undergone years of inconvenience, and these tossers are moaning about 3 weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-162471...

Puggit

48,557 posts

250 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Similar story in Reading - people living next to the A3290 are complaining about the noise. It was opened in 1974!


Edited cos I think noise is news

Edited by Puggit on Tuesday 20th December 09:36

Digga

40,503 posts

285 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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anonymous said:
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O/T: When I was younger (between the ages of 4 and 7) I lived by the main line between Cardiff and Barry docks. Late at nights, if I was awake, I'd often hear the big Class 37 diesels hauling coal trucks or oil tanks - massive, long trains thundering thorugh the night. In a way, it was a little sinister, but it was also somehow very comforting and familiar and even now when I hear big diesel locos it reminds me of childhood.

Why you'd move by 'something' a road, railway, airfield, race circuit and it then be a surprise of inconvenience is totally beyond me.

SlidingSideways

1,345 posts

234 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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We get this every time EMA want to increase their flight schedule, or Donington Park want to increase the number of race days.
This is despite the fact that a lot of the village depend on either the airport or the track for the livelihoods, or moved there well after both were established.
Morons, the lot of 'em!

ScoobyDood

2,140 posts

161 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Puggit said:
Similar story in Reading - people living next to the A3290 are complaining about the news. It was opened in 1974!
Ah yes but back before 1974, the council promised there would be sound deadening measures installed at the time of the A329(M) construction - This never happened and over the years has been constantly subject to various time-wasting enquiries and investigations..........

Camoradi

4,300 posts

258 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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They used to do airfield days at Kemble, near Cirencester, which drew a fair amount of complaints from local NIMBYs. During the ensuing battle involving the council, the organiser advertised a track day in the local paper, but never actually ran an event on the advertised date. The council received 3 letters of complaint about the noise on the day... laugh

ProSc2008

196 posts

239 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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If you think that's bad then check this story out:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/9428744.Yorkshire_...

What kind of person buys a house near to an airfield and then starts complaining about the air ambulance? I'm sure the feeling would be different if they, or their family, ever had to make use of the service.

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

201 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Similar issue almost killed off Croft Circuit.

The solution isn't noise supression or stopping developments, the solution is a cull of mongs.

Oakey

27,620 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Camoradi said:
They used to do airfield days at Kemble, near Cirencester, which drew a fair amount of complaints from local NIMBYs. During the ensuing battle involving the council, the organiser advertised a track day in the local paper, but never actually ran an event on the advertised date. The council received 3 letters of complaint about the noise on the day... laugh
I'm pretty sure this exact story can be attributed to a myriad of other things.

ETA: Mobile phone masts. A phone company installed a phone mast and people complained it was making them ill so the phone company responded with "sorry to hear about your problems, we hope things don't get worse when we turn it on at the end of the month"

Simbu

1,799 posts

176 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Oakey said:
I'm pretty sure this exact story can be attributed to a myriad of other things.

ETA: Mobile phone masts. A phone company installed a phone mast and people complained it was making them ill so the phone company responded with "sorry to hear about your problems, we hope things don't get worse when we turn it on at the end of the month"
Self-righteous NIMBYs rolleyes

They want slapping in the face with a brick biggrin

ApexJimi

25,119 posts

245 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Oakey said:
Camoradi said:
They used to do airfield days at Kemble, near Cirencester, which drew a fair amount of complaints from local NIMBYs. During the ensuing battle involving the council, the organiser advertised a track day in the local paper, but never actually ran an event on the advertised date. The council received 3 letters of complaint about the noise on the day... laugh
I'm pretty sure this exact story can be attributed to a myriad of other things.

ETA: Mobile phone masts. A phone company installed a phone mast and people complained it was making them ill so the phone company responded with "sorry to hear about your problems, we hope things don't get worse when we turn it on at the end of the month"
It saddens, and pisses me off in equal measure, that people can be that vindictive frownshoot

hornet

6,333 posts

252 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Digga said:
/T: When I was younger (between the ages of 4 and 7) I lived by the main line between Cardiff and Barry docks. Late at nights, if I was awake, I'd often hear the big Class 37 diesels hauling coal trucks or oil tanks - massive, long trains thundering thorugh the night. In a way, it was a little sinister, but it was also somehow very comforting and familiar and even now when I hear big diesel locos it reminds me of childhood.

Why you'd move by 'something' a road, railway, airfield, race circuit and it then be a surprise of inconvenience is totally beyond me.
Same here. Childhood home overlooked the Watford to St Albans branch line, which for a period used to have a reversing siding serving a coal yard. Used to get woken up by the diesel unit shunting up and down the siding in the small hours, and it absolutely fascinated me. Whilst not being a full on rail geek, I do have an interest, and I think that's where it comes from.

We now have a fuss brewing locally about the noise from the recently approved Croxley Rail link. People who own properties backing on to the currently disused (since 1996) portion of the line are complaining about the future "disruption" and noise. Given the length of time this project has been mooted, you'd have thought they might have consider it's potential reinstatement when buying the property, but apparently not.

onyx39

Original Poster:

11,145 posts

152 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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hornet said:
Digga said:
/T: When I was younger (between the ages of 4 and 7) I lived by the main line between Cardiff and Barry docks. Late at nights, if I was awake, I'd often hear the big Class 37 diesels hauling coal trucks or oil tanks - massive, long trains thundering thorugh the night. In a way, it was a little sinister, but it was also somehow very comforting and familiar and even now when I hear big diesel locos it reminds me of childhood.

Why you'd move by 'something' a road, railway, airfield, race circuit and it then be a surprise of inconvenience is totally beyond me.
Same here. Childhood home overlooked the Watford to St Albans branch line, which for a period used to have a reversing siding serving a coal yard. Used to get woken up by the diesel unit shunting up and down the siding in the small hours, and it absolutely fascinated me. Whilst not being a full on rail geek, I do have an interest, and I think that's where it comes from.

We now have a fuss brewing locally about the noise from the recently approved Croxley Rail link. People who own properties backing on to the currently disused (since 1996) portion of the line are complaining about the future "disruption" and noise. Given the length of time this project has been mooted, you'd have thought they might have consider it's potential reinstatement when buying the property, but apparently not.
When I moved out of Hounslow ( right under the flight paths) to Sandhurst in Berkshire, I really struggled for the first couple of months to get to sleep at nights... it was just TOO quiet!


Digga

40,503 posts

285 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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onyx39 said:
When I moved out of Hounslow ( right under the flight paths) to Sandhurst in Berkshire, I really struggled for the first couple of months to get to sleep at nights... it was just TOO quiet!
A mate moved from Horley (Gatwich) to Devon and said exactly the same.

It took him a few weeks to realise how un-nerving the jet overhead that never comes is, and a bit longer again to get used to peace and quiet. hehe

Mark Benson

7,566 posts

271 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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ProSc2008 said:
If you think that's bad then check this story out:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/9428744.Yorkshire_...

What kind of person buys a house near to an airfield and then starts complaining about the air ambulance? I'm sure the feeling would be different if they, or their family, ever had to make use of the service.
That's been very badly misrepresented.

The locals are not complaining about the air ambulance, they try to make that very clear, but the press don't always take note.

They are complaining abut the expansion plans to what is currently a grass airstrip in a tiny North Yorkshire village, the owner wants to extend the current wooden hangar, put up 7 new steel hangars and build a new clubhouse with gym etc.
Currently it's this;
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=bagby+airfield&amp...

He's turning a few sheds and a strip of grass into something much bigger and the plans seem to be a tad ambitious considering the likely return.
To fill an extended hanger & 7 new ones he'll have to make a profit from day one to service the financial side of his investment, consequently he's going to have to attract a lot of new flying customers.
This is what the locals are worried about, this dispute has been going on for 5 years and still the owner is appealing against planning decisions.
Since the planning process is expensive to constantly fight, the locals are bringing a noise enforcement act into play - they are not against the Air Ambulance, which has been flying without complaint from there for years - they are against a grass strip being turned into a major airfield.

This is not about moving close to a major airport/RAF base and complaining about a few trackdays, this is a 5 year long dispute about the levels of air traffic being increased in a rural area and the owner is using the Air Ambulance story as a vehicle to gain public sympathy.

Always 2 sides to every story....

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Im a killjoy too!!
A long stretch of Thames towpath has been closed by Dorney Lake (Olympic rowing venue) so that a temporary bridge can be built for Olympic spectators. Not that temporary is it!, 8 months before the event. One of my favourite runs is along there...

stichill99

1,054 posts

183 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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I liked the comment about the 3 complaints about noise at the advertised track day when it never took place. It reminded me of a friend who had a field that was neighbouring a house that a family of greenies moved into. They complained about everythng that was done on the farm especially crop spraying. My friend new what was coming when his wheat was ready for spraying,as by law he informed the family he would be spraying fungicide the next day. The next day the family complained they were feeling nauseous and the spray had made them all ill.Thats funny replied my friend as I only put water in the sprayer today so it couldnt have been me! He never got another complaint.

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

178 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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anonymous said:
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This is a classic sub-conscious slip! smile

turbobloke

104,538 posts

262 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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Chrisw666 said:
Similar issue almost killed off Croft Circuit.

The solution isn't noise supression or stopping developments, the solution is a cull of mongs.
All of that applies to Castle Combe also.

deltaevo16

755 posts

173 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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onyx39 said:
When I moved out of Hounslow ( right under the flight paths) to Sandhurst in Berkshire, I really struggled for the first couple of months to get to sleep at nights... it was just TOO quiet!
Lol I lived at Cranford last street before the runway at Heathrow, Concord coming in at a 100 feet was mind blowing smile