Norwegian jobsworths take away Indian children

Norwegian jobsworths take away Indian children

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just me

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5,964 posts

222 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2088337/No...

Article said:
An Indian couple have had their children taken away by Norwegian social workers because they were feeding them with their hands and sleeping in the same bed as them.
Anurup and Sagarika Bhattacharya lost custody of their three-year-old son and one-year-old daughter eight months ago after authorities branded their behaviour inappropriate.
The drastic measure led to intervention from the Indian government who contacted Norwegian authorities in an a desperate attempt to return the children.
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It's bad enough that the cretins did this in the first place. Now they are refusing to give the kids back, despite pleas from the Indian government. How fked in the head do you have to be?

Mojooo

12,834 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Utterly crazy (if it is as the DM makes out).

Maybe I will think twice about eating with my hands when I am in a pizza place or curry house.

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

184 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Mental.

AJS-

15,366 posts

238 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Remember this story next time someone tells you what a socialist paradise Norway is.

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

184 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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I'd like to think there's more to that story and they haven't torn a family apart because of a lack of understanding of cultural differences, but knowing quite a few social workers, there probably isn't.

Two social workers are walking down a street, they hear moaning from an alleyway and investigate. They find a man lying on the ground, he is battered and bruised, his clothes soaked in blood. One looks to the other and says "Whoever did that really needs help." They walk on.

alfaman

6,416 posts

236 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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AJS- said:
Remember this story next time someone tells you what a socialist paradise Norway is.
About 30 years ago the Norwegian govt censored the cartoon movie "Dumbo" .. because some of the elephants were dancing topless - which was deemed offensive and immoral for children.

You couldnt make it up.

johnfm

13,668 posts

252 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Norway

Handwringing matters.

jshell

11,198 posts

207 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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2 things:

1. It's the Daily Mail, FFS! How can anyone believe anything printed in that piece of shyte excuse for a rag?? I know, I know this is PH and the DM is the bible... Silly me.

2. The Indian authorities should perhaps be intervening in the millions of Indian children roaming about the rubbish dumps and cess-pits of India before getting involved in stuff like this...

just me

Original Poster:

5,964 posts

222 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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1. Is there a chance that this is simply not true? Hmmmm.

2. No, the Indian gov't should be intervening in both places.

SC7

1,882 posts

183 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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There has to be more to the story.

I'd be interested to see the report, or Norway's side of the argument.

MadMullah

5,265 posts

195 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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after reading several sources both from India and Norway it seems that is it...

the sleeping in the same bed and eating with the hands

Apparently Norway's social services are quite strict too.


HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

286 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Right, I'm telling my young kids that sleeping in my bed and eating with their hands is illegal.

Also, not tidying their rooms and teasing the cat.

steviegunn

1,417 posts

186 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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MadMullah said:
after reading several sources both from India and Norway it seems that is it...

the sleeping in the same bed and eating with the hands

Apparently Norway's social services are quite strict too.
One way to reduce immigration I suppose, would put people off living there if they think they might have their kids taken off them.

otolith

56,858 posts

206 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Very uniform and conformist societies.

DonkeyApple

56,370 posts

171 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Ok. But why shouldn't Norway expect Norwegian citizens to grow up in a Norwegian manner?

If you live in a country where people do not generally eat with their hands then these parents are disadvantaging their children and ultimately segregating them from their society.

I recal at prep school a kid turning up and trying to eat crumble and custard with his hands. He also wiped his arse with his hands He was a fking idiot but far less so than his moronic parents who were comprehensively failing to raise their child appropriately.

There will be more to this story but even at its most elemental level I wholly agree with their actions.

jshell

11,198 posts

207 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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steviegunn said:
MadMullah said:
after reading several sources both from India and Norway it seems that is it...

the sleeping in the same bed and eating with the hands

Apparently Norway's social services are quite strict too.
One way to reduce immigration I suppose, would put people off living there if they think they might have their kids taken off them.
Nah, Norway is still one of the most child-friendly countries in the world. Everything surrounds kids, they even have maternity-hotels for childbirth, followed by massive fully paid maternity and paternity leave. Kindergarten staff work for the children and are price-limited so that they all cost the same and it's not just a money-making venture like the UK. There aren't the same HSE limitations that we have so the kids get used to being outside in all weathers from an early age, I see that as good rather than bad. Most of the population are hugely fit so don't have a lot of the same health concerns as a lot of the world has.

On the other hand, it's controlled with rampant, but well financed uber-Socialism. ..and the roads are shyte.

bobbylondonuk

2,199 posts

192 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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I guess its simple...when in rome do as the romans do.

If you are indian and want to practice an indian way of life...its all good as long as its acceptable in the country you live in. It seems that style of living is not acceptable in Norway.

And being Indian myself...Im willing to bet a tenner it was parents saving money by renting a small flat instead of spending money on decent accomodation. And as for eating with hands...it is most likely to be a case of not encouraging the use of cutlery and eating like they are in India without even thinking how their kids would behave in a Norwegian society.

I guess they and all indians learnt a lesson now...I hope.

otolith

56,858 posts

206 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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jshell said:
Most of the population are hugely fit so don't have a lot of the same health concerns as a lot of the world has.
Not sure that Scandinavian stereotype still holds, looking at their obesity statistics:

http://www.fhi.no/eway/default.aspx?pid=238&tr...

Hooli

32,278 posts

202 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
Ok. But why shouldn't Norway expect Norwegian citizens to grow up in a Norwegian manner?

If you live in a country where people do not generally eat with their hands then these parents are disadvantaging their children and ultimately segregating them from their society.

I recal at prep school a kid turning up and trying to eat crumble and custard with his hands. He also wiped his arse with his hands He was a fking idiot but far less so than his moronic parents who were comprehensively failing to raise their child appropriately.

There will be more to this story but even at its most elemental level I wholly agree with their actions.
I agree. The point to living in Norway is that it is Norway, if you want to live like your in India then bloody move to India.

Digga

40,595 posts

285 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Hooli said:
I agree. The point to living in Norway is that it is Norway, if you want to live like your in India then bloody move to India.
All the Indian people I know in the UK/Europe live as 'normal' British families would. Okay, they eat Indian food a bit more often and the central heating is generally turned a few clicks higher. hehe