Want to visit the USA? Stay away from the internet.

Want to visit the USA? Stay away from the internet.

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audidoody

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8,597 posts

258 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Eek

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093796/Br...

Glad to know my extreme paranoia about Uncle Sam is entirely justified.

(PS). A big 'howdy' to all my NSA fans tuning in.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

230 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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I'd like to destroy (well, ruin) her.

lick

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

235 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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US immigration have an incredibly hard job being charged with stopping as many people as possible from entering the USA and to try to put as many people off visiting what is, by and large, a fantastic Country.

They are very good at their job.

Their understanding of English English and the current fashions of communication in that tongue escape them as often Mexicans crossing their southern boarders.

I really would like to go back there again (been a fair few times) but the discomfort of dealing with US Immigration is almost enough to stop me as there are other parts of the World which are so much more welcoming to enter.

I will not let it colour my opinion of normal Americans and the country as a whole, but spending 3-5 hours minimum of my precious holiday time in a state of perpetual fear that US IMS will take the opportunity to destroy your holiday or even send you straight back is not something I consider in a positive light when booking.

Frankeh

12,558 posts

187 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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26? She looks 35.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

244 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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They're bloody idiots.

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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I'd guess that they watch the internet for watch words, and when they pop up they cross check the people who write them against ESTA. Bloody efficient frankly.

vescaegg

25,846 posts

169 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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How would they even know whose ttter account they were? Its not like they would be declared on the immigration form! Do many people (other than 'celebrities') use real names on twitter which can then be crossed checked within anyone visiting America?!

rpguk

4,473 posts

286 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Utterly stupid on the part of the border officials, but don't think our guys are much better.

My ex was Russian-American and was forced to endure aggressive interrogation every time she came into UK. Something that she just didn't face in other European countries.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

206 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Emily said:
He would not hurt anyone. He is gay.
Um, wut?

Rev Limit

236 posts

156 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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What an idiot! Why would you post something like that online? Especially in sensitive times like these!

The blondie is a bit of alright though... wink

KaraK

13,212 posts

211 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Maybe it was just their way of saying "we'd rather not have you in our country you pretentious prick" rofl


carmonk

7,910 posts

189 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Nutters. No, not the couple, the immigration bunch. Absolute total nutjobs with no sense of reality or proportion. One was going to dig up Marilyn Monroe and the other was going to destroy the whole of America (or the other way around, I assume) rofl

hornet

6,333 posts

252 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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I don't know what's more depressing, the hysterical over reaction by US immigration or the fact these airheads are posting things like that on a public timeline under their real names. Never mind immigration, you're also going to have current or future employers looking for that sort of stuff.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

235 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Oh it is agreed that the Visitors were a bit X faktor in their comments but come on, this really isn't the drag them out of line, accuse them of all sorts of stuff immigration have made up in their coffee break (she had said nothing, was only travelling with him, and they accuse her of going to act as his look out with no evidence at all) and create a record that will affect them for the rest of their lives.

Sorry but whilst I am 'happy' to see that the US counter measures are very strong and effective (Quotes as not sure that I like the level of intrusion they deem acceptable on a day to day level.) I feel that there has been a massive intelligence failure in interpreting a 'cool' computer hit with a 'human' mind.

Again this would be easier to deal with if it were a one off but time and again we see this poorly staffed and intellectually challenged bunch of individuals pissing on the good name of their Country.


Haggleburyfinius

6,613 posts

188 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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I love America and its people.

However, stuff like this is just plainly mental. This pair of chavs don't exactly fit the terrorist stereotype do they?

My sister is moving to New York this year and I intend to visit her rather regularly...I guess I'd better get used to the insanity of US border control frown

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

188 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Frankeh said:
26? She looks 35.
I was thinking that: a 35 year old dressed as an 18 year old. Maybe she is and she's hiding it from him.

Actually he's got some major bags under his eyes too. Wonder when they last slept? Maybe she's been trying to cure him.

Edited by Johnnytheboy on Monday 30th January 13:55

Frankeh

12,558 posts

187 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Johnnytheboy said:
Frankeh said:
26? She looks 35.
I was thinking that: a 35 year old dressed as an 18 year old. Maybe she is and she's hiding it from him.
Real reason she didn't get it because she didn't want to show them the passport and reveal her true age.

Dun dun duuuuun.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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I travel regularly and have never had any issues with entry to any country, including USA.

I would have thought that if someone says they're going to destroy your country and then turns up for entry it's not in the least bit unreasonable to ask some questions.

Murph7355

37,944 posts

258 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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It's the Daily Mail FFS. Anyone avoiding the US on the basis of that "story" would probably be unable to get there under their own steam anyway!

Let's see the side of the story. Let's see the rest of the refusal form in full. Let's ask the two schmucks if they had the same sort of kick off face demonstrated in the DM photo whilst talking to immigration. I'd guess the mong factor continued to play an increasing part in their refusal into the country.

The whys and wherefores of US immigration have been done here before. They're not always the cheeriest bunch, but not to go for the sake of 5mins being courteous to an IO is daft. Unless you rule out going to 75% of the planet!

Meanwhile these two have probably had their first life lesson that you don't automatically have a right to everything and anything you want.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

235 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
I travel regularly and have never had any issues with entry to any country, including USA.

I would have thought that if someone says they're going to destroy your country and then turns up for entry it's not in the least bit unreasonable to ask some questions.
Context is all though and whilst it is a 'silly' comment it is even more stupid to refuse entry after even cursory investigation.