Lottery winners "on the sick"
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k them I want what is mine, just another selfish act in 'soloiety'davepoth said:
i dont mind kinky but boiling your own pee then scalding yourself is just plain weirdThe issue is means test and you get the person who falls just above the limit and as such is suddenly worse off than the person next door who does one hour less at work. Or means testing means a lot of worthy people who are entitled to it don't apply because they don't want to fill the form in, my Mum's Mum was one of these lived in a cold house because she wouldn't apply for any extras she was entitled to because the whole process made her feel like she was unable to cope.
I personally think it is better to be spending a little more on some benefits to and have millionaires entitled to and receiving it rather than make it means tested and miss hundreds or thousands of people who won't apply for the extras because it goes against their principles.
I personally think it is better to be spending a little more on some benefits to and have millionaires entitled to and receiving it rather than make it means tested and miss hundreds or thousands of people who won't apply for the extras because it goes against their principles.
Everyone has said "entitled". I can't see anyone has said "responsible". They have no need for it and it's not a benefit that's automatically provided like the winter fuel payment. They can ring the benefit office and ask them to stop the payment and they would.
It's not this couple in particular, but the attitude of entitlement in general that makes me angry.
It's not this couple in particular, but the attitude of entitlement in general that makes me angry.
I remember a scene in the film Cinderella man, where Russell Crowe had to rely on state welfare for a while, but when he finally made it big, he returned to the welfare office with a big bag of money, and paid the state back every Cent.
It would be nice to think that there are actually people like that in the real world, or is that a now long forgotten era?
It would be nice to think that there are actually people like that in the real world, or is that a now long forgotten era?
Six Fiend said:
OP, he's not on the sick.
HTH.
I'd stop claiming if I had that sort, or even a tenth of that money. In fact, probably a lot less...
Well no, not on IB which is the one we generally call "on the sick" but he is receiving £6,000 a year and motability allowance on top of that when he has absolutely no need for it.HTH.
I'd stop claiming if I had that sort, or even a tenth of that money. In fact, probably a lot less...
sinizter said:
It's not a means tested benefit.
While it would be nice of them not to claim, it would be similar to paying more tax than necessary because of moral reasons.
Agreed, I really couldn't care less about this. I'm pretty confident that they pay plenty of taxes in VAT, capital gains etc. so we're still ahead. There's a lot to be said for universal/non-means tested benefits as it reduces administration costs and doesn't punish people for working harder (not applicable in this case of course).While it would be nice of them not to claim, it would be similar to paying more tax than necessary because of moral reasons.
How many multi-millionaires receive this benefit? Surely not a material number, this is just an edge-case.
Edited by theaxe on Saturday 4th February 12:24
davepoth said:
Well no, not on IB which is the one we generally call "on the sick" but he is receiving £6,000 a year and motability allowance on top of that when he has absolutely no need for it.
There are a lot of benefits like this though, whether winter fuel allowance, or child benefit. How many millionaires in the UK? All of them with children will get CB, but that doesn't sell papers.If all benefits were means tested it could be argued that it rewards fecklessness and but not prudence. But the downside of fixed and contributory benefits is that some people will get them who obviously could manage without.
Sticks. said:
There are a lot of benefits like this though, whether winter fuel allowance, or child benefit. How many millionaires in the UK? All of them with children will get CB, but that doesn't sell papers.
If all benefits were means tested it could be argued that it rewards fecklessness and but not prudence. But the downside of fixed and contributory benefits is that some people will get them who obviously could manage without.
When I worked in the USA, I had to file a tax return. There's an option on there that says something along the lines of "would you like to give any tax rebate that might be due to you back to the government to help with the National Debt?". Can you imagine that happening in the UK? If all benefits were means tested it could be argued that it rewards fecklessness and but not prudence. But the downside of fixed and contributory benefits is that some people will get them who obviously could manage without.
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