Archbishop of Canterbury playing politics AGAIN

Archbishop of Canterbury playing politics AGAIN

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nutcase

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1,145 posts

254 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Can't someone just put him back in his box properly this time.

If he wanted to be a politician, then he should have fking well pursued that career. Isn't he supposed to be unbiased in his political stance (sort of like The Queen?), when he is so clearly lefty.

What a twunt.

Edited to add (latest example)

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/903053-archbishop-of-c...

Edited by nutcase on Sunday 24th June 10:50

TankRizzo

7,341 posts

195 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Oh, he's got a book to sell. How predictable.

Randy Winkman

16,530 posts

191 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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nutcase said:
Can't someone just put him back in his box properly this time.

If he wanted to be a politician, then he should have fking well pursued that career. Isn't he supposed to be unbiased in his political stance (sort of like The Queen?), when he is so clearly lefty.

What a twunt.

Edited to add (latest example)

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/903053-archbishop-of-c...

Edited by nutcase on Sunday 24th June 10:50
He's right though.

bigbubba

1,005 posts

221 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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I can't value the opinion of someone who believes and preaches about a higher being.

Religion belongs in the dark ages, not in the 21st century.

nutcase

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1,145 posts

254 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Randy Winkman said:
He's right though.
Disagree. He, like many other people, seem to be deluded that it isn't their own responsibility to provide and look after themselves, to work hard and enjoy the rewards- rather, they sit back and expect to get everything on a plate from the State for free. The 'entitlement' attitude has to be eliminated for those who have contributed little or nothing. You should get out what you put in.

Countdown

40,284 posts

198 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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nutcase said:
Disagree. He, like many other people, seem to be deluded that it isn't their own responsibility to provide and look after themselves, to work hard and enjoy the rewards- rather, they sit back and expect to get everything on a plate from the State for free. The 'entitlement' attitude has to be eliminated for those who have contributed little or nothing. You should get out what you put in.
You don't think that there's a middle ground made up of people who do want to contribute to society but can't do for reasons beyond their control?


Derek Smith

45,904 posts

250 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Religion is politics. From the time when Constantine invented christianity it has always been about politics. Perh aps not quite so much nowdays, but a fine example of it was Eire. The church, to a great extent, ran the country.

Politics/religion is rather like space/time.

otolith

56,858 posts

206 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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"Who will rid me..."

toppstuff

13,698 posts

249 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Countdown said:
nutcase said:
Disagree. He, like many other people, seem to be deluded that it isn't their own responsibility to provide and look after themselves, to work hard and enjoy the rewards- rather, they sit back and expect to get everything on a plate from the State for free. The 'entitlement' attitude has to be eliminated for those who have contributed little or nothing. You should get out what you put in.
You don't think that there's a middle ground made up of people who do want to contribute to society but can't do for reasons beyond their control?
Yes, but the balance is not right in this country. The truly disadvantaged should be helped, but Labour have created a culture where for a minority, benefit dependency is a lifestyle choice.

The religious beardy in the big hat makes a reasonable point, but there is nothing wrong with the concept of society, in that people SHOULD take more responsibility for their own lives.

The state should help those in need. But it is not the role of the state to replace aspiration, ambition and personal responsibility.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

211 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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otolith said:
"Who will rid me..."
Exactly what I was thinking when I heaard this on the news


As someone who gets paid a huge amount of money to live in the lap of luxury he should STFU about things he has no understanding or experiance of and no responsibility for.

Countdown

40,284 posts

198 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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toppstuff said:
Countdown said:
nutcase said:
Disagree. He, like many other people, seem to be deluded that it isn't their own responsibility to provide and look after themselves, to work hard and enjoy the rewards- rather, they sit back and expect to get everything on a plate from the State for free. The 'entitlement' attitude has to be eliminated for those who have contributed little or nothing. You should get out what you put in.
You don't think that there's a middle ground made up of people who do want to contribute to society but can't do for reasons beyond their control?
Yes, but the balance is not right in this country. The truly disadvantaged should be helped, but Labour have created a culture where for a minority, benefit dependency is a lifestyle choice.

The religious beardy in the big hat makes a reasonable point, but there is nothing wrong with the concept of society, in that people SHOULD take more responsibility for their own lives.

The state should help those in need. But it is not the role of the state to replace aspiration, ambition and personal responsibility.
And that's the point. It's a minority (despite what certain tabloid rags would have you believe). I'm all for cutting benefits to this section of the population but what some people seem to prefer to believe is that most people on benefits are workshy dolebludging scumbags. Archie Bish is quite right to speak up and credit on him for doing so.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Derek Smith said:
Religion is politics. Politics/religion is rather like space/time.
Exactly.

It took me a while to grasp that point but over the years I have become increasingly convinced that religion, politics and economics are all the same thing, or at least aspects of the same thing. Namely human nature. It is simply impossible to look at any one of them in isolation.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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toppstuff said:
the balance is not right in this country. The truly disadvantaged should be helped, but Labour have created a culture where for a minority, benefit dependency is a lifestyle choice.

The religious beardy in the big hat makes a reasonable point, but there is nothing wrong with the concept of society, in that people SHOULD take more responsibility for their own lives.

The state should help those in need. But it is not the role of the state to replace aspiration, ambition and personal responsibility.
^^^^ Very good summary IMO.

Use Psychology

11,327 posts

194 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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bigbubba said:
I can't value the opinion of someone who believes and preaches about a higher being.

Religion belongs in the dark ages, not in the 21st century.
but holding (apparently) invalid opinions on some subjects doesn't disqualify you from having valid and perhaps very sensible opinions in other areas.

for example, if you ask me something about football my opinion is basically irrelevant but if you ask me about other things then you'd find I have significant expertise and very valid and valuable opinions (in my opinion... there we go again... my opinion of myself is probably not valuable).

so despite the fact that this man believes in god etc. etc. I find it possible that he may be able to talk sense.

Some Gump

12,745 posts

188 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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So, the bearded skirt wearing knacker is stirring again.

He's moaning about protecting the wak members of socieety, who can't protect themselves. What about the scores of small children his mated have bummed? Did the church make a stand for the disadvantaged, and excommunicate those responsible? No, they just kept it quiet and hoped it would go away.

Eric Mc

122,344 posts

267 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Is he not allowed state his opinion?

Use Psychology

11,327 posts

194 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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not sure the archbishop of canterbury has much influence in the catholic church...

CBR JGWRR

6,548 posts

151 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Some Gump said:
So, the bearded skirt wearing knacker is stirring again.

He's moaning about protecting the wak members of socieety, who can't protect themselves. What about the scores of small children his mated have bummed? Did the church make a stand for the disadvantaged, and excommunicate those responsible? No, they just kept it quiet and hoped it would go away.
rofl

bigbubba

1,005 posts

221 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Use Psychology said:
but holding (apparently) invalid opinions on some subjects doesn't disqualify you from having valid and perhaps very sensible opinions in other areas.

for example, if you ask me something about football my opinion is basically irrelevant
But football isn't make believe.....

Your opinion on other matters would not be any less valid because you don't like football. That would be because you are not a mentalist making football up.

Religion on the other hand....

Puggit

48,571 posts

250 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Can anyone think of someone right-wing with a beard?