del Missier pay off
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Du1point8 said:
How so? Did they remove all you worked for so far or stop it from X date?
Or you a lucky private pension owner that GB raided to pay for stuff?
Can you believe they had the audacity to suggest that PS workers should work slightly longer, and pay a bit more in? Frankly, I think it's disgusting! Or you a lucky private pension owner that GB raided to pay for stuff?
Now gimme that big fat employer contribution. I'm worth it.
johnfm said:
REALIST123 said:
Cue those who will insist he is worth it............
And they say crime doesn't pay.
What crime?And they say crime doesn't pay.
It is notoriously difficult to prove, of course, but I'd like to see the CPS have a go at some of the top people in these institutions who do seem to have managed to run their organisations into the ground and then been paid handsomely for their efforts.
ukwill said:
Du1point8 said:
How so? Did they remove all you worked for so far or stop it from X date?
Or you a lucky private pension owner that GB raided to pay for stuff?
Can you believe they had the audacity to suggest that PS workers should work slightly longer, and pay a bit more in? Frankly, I think it's disgusting! Or you a lucky private pension owner that GB raided to pay for stuff?
Now gimme that big fat employer contribution. I'm worth it.
Maybe government can start stripping public sector people of all their pensions, getting them to pay back all bonuses when the public sector fks something up... Wonder what would happen then?
Strike and demand it doesn't happen?
Eric Mc said:
johnfm said:
REALIST123 said:
Cue those who will insist he is worth it............
And they say crime doesn't pay.
What crime?And they say crime doesn't pay.
It is notoriously difficult to prove, of course, but I'd like to see the CPS have a go at some of the top people in these institutions who do seem to have managed to run their organisations into the ground and then been paid handsomely for their efforts.
s993 CA 2006 said:
Offence of fraudulent trading
(1)If any business of a company is carried on with intent to defraud creditors of the company or creditors of any other person, or for any fraudulent purpose, every person who is knowingly a party to the carrying on of the business in that manner commits an offence.
(2)This applies whether or not the company has been, or is in the course of being, wound up.
(3)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable—
(a)on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or a fine (or both);
(b)on summary conviction—
(i)in England and Wales, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding twelve months or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (or both);
(ii)in Scotland or Northern Ireland, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (or both).
Think you'd have a hard time proving intent Eric.(1)If any business of a company is carried on with intent to defraud creditors of the company or creditors of any other person, or for any fraudulent purpose, every person who is knowingly a party to the carrying on of the business in that manner commits an offence.
(2)This applies whether or not the company has been, or is in the course of being, wound up.
(3)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable—
(a)on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or a fine (or both);
(b)on summary conviction—
(i)in England and Wales, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding twelve months or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (or both);
(ii)in Scotland or Northern Ireland, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (or both).
johnfm said:
Think you'd have a hard time proving intent Eric.
True - indeed, most attempts to proscute under these types of charges tend to fail on that score. As I said, making fraud charges or wrongful trading charges stick is extremely difficult.The ex CEO of Anglo Irish has been arrested in Ireland on fraud charges but his misdemeanours seem to be an order of magnitude worse than what could be levied at the British bank CEOs.
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