Police brutality leads to man's death
Discussion
A man has died in police custody in South Africa after being dragged - while handcuffed - behind a police van.
Police are alleging the man disarmed one of the police officers during an altercation - a claim which is rejected by witnesses - only to be overpowered and then handcuffed to the vehicle
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21615593
Police are alleging the man disarmed one of the police officers during an altercation - a claim which is rejected by witnesses - only to be overpowered and then handcuffed to the vehicle
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21615593
Pints said:
Dino D said:
Badgerboy said:
I knew SA had issues, but it really has gone to fk in recent times.
In recent times? Not to detract from the suffering of this person but this is tame conpared to what went on not so long ago. Very tame.
simoid said:
Police shooting dead a few dozen miners... tame too?
I have to say, if you're informed purely by the (extraordinarily poor) BBC content, I can understand that one-sided view. But coverage from other sources gave a far less black & white picture of that particualr incident. (If you refer to the recent shooting.)Digga said:
simoid said:
Police shooting dead a few dozen miners... tame too?
I have to say, if you're informed purely by the (extraordinarily poor) BBC content, I can understand that one-sided view. But coverage from other sources gave a far less black & white picture of that particualr incident. (If you refer to the recent shooting.)The use of the word tame may not be the best and I used it in a comparitive sense to even more gruesome police brutality that took place (and looks like it still does). There really is nothing tame about it but SA is a place of such gruesome crime that one gets numbed and I see I still seem to have that numbness..
My comment was In response to a post saying 'in recent' years it has gotten bad in SA. My point is to say that this event, as gruesome as it is, is a type of event that occurred often and even more extreme methods of torture were routinely used by the police. Reports of people dragged miles not yards were not unusual (if it ever made it to the press).
It's not just in recent years-it has been violent for a very long time.
No offence intended and certainly no belittlement of what happened to this person-reading back I can see how it may give that impression.
My comment was In response to a post saying 'in recent' years it has gotten bad in SA. My point is to say that this event, as gruesome as it is, is a type of event that occurred often and even more extreme methods of torture were routinely used by the police. Reports of people dragged miles not yards were not unusual (if it ever made it to the press).
It's not just in recent years-it has been violent for a very long time.
No offence intended and certainly no belittlement of what happened to this person-reading back I can see how it may give that impression.
simoid said:
Digga said:
simoid said:
Police shooting dead a few dozen miners... tame too?
I have to say, if you're informed purely by the (extraordinarily poor) BBC content, I can understand that one-sided view. But coverage from other sources gave a far less black & white picture of that particualr incident. (If you refer to the recent shooting.)- Police officers at the strike had been machetted to death on the previous day
- The video coverage (still on web) showed police firing into the ground to try to stop the advance and miners walking onto the line of fire
- local (black) commentators on SA media noting that the strike was not official/legal and was motivated by political power struggle
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