OBR put the (deserved) boot into Cameron.

[MarshPhantom]

Everybody knows that, on any level, the Tories economic plan isn't working.

Denied twice by Cameron in yesterday's speech, the Boss of the OBR has put the PM in his place.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/mar/08/obr...

[turbobloke]

MarshPhantom said:

Everybody knows that, on any level, the Tories economic plan isn't working.

You managed to poll everybody in a survey organised and completed in the short space of time since the OBR open letter was published? Impressive.

Then again...it missed at least two people as me and Mrs TB weren't asked

[MarshPhantom]

turbobloke said:

MarshPhantom said:

Everybody knows that, on any level, the Tories economic plan isn't working.

You managed to poll everybody in a survey organised and completed in the short space of time since the OBR open letter was published? Impressive.

Then again...it missed at least two people as me and Mrs TB weren't asked

Everybody knows apart from you?

[hidetheelephants]

The Guardian doesn't like the Conservative Prime Minister! In other news the pope is still taking Mass, ursine arboreal defecation to be confirmed by observation.

[MarshPhantom]

hidetheelephants said:

The Guardian doesn't like the Conservative Prime Minister! In other news the pope is still taking Mass, ursine arboreal defecation to be confirmed by observation.

It's not just a Guardian story.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/03/08/uk-obr-ca...

[Caulkhead]

MarshPhantom said:

Everybody knows that, on any level, the Tories economic plan isn't working.

What is your favoured alternative plan?

[Puggit]

I know, I know - let's take even more debt on because debt was not a massive cause of the crisis. Oh no.

[Victor McDade]

This government is spending £120 billion more than it receives in taxes every year. Yet people have the audacity to claim we're 'cutting too far'.

[Johnnytheboy]

Caulkhead said:

MarshPhantom said:

Everybody knows that, on any level, the Tories economic plan isn't working.

What is your favoured alternative plan?

After a delightfully impartial thread title to hook me in, I'd like an answer to this.

Presumably, the Balls-esque Plan B that involves another decade of public sector pay rises to stimulate "the economy"?

[baz1985]

turbobloke said:

Then again...it missed at least two people as me and Mrs TB weren't asked

It's a stratified sample innit.

Developed world 'Debt Cancellation' isn't too far away anyhow...IVA G8 stylee coming soon!

[Caulkhead]

Johnnytheboy said:

Caulkhead said:

MarshPhantom said:

Everybody knows that, on any level, the Tories economic plan isn't working.

What is your favoured alternative plan?

After a delightfully impartial thread title to hook me in, I'd like an answer to this.

Presumably, the Balls-esque Plan B that involves another decade of public sector pay rises to stimulate "the economy"?

I'm guessing we won't see the OP again. It's easy to not like what's going on and whine about it. Much harder to suggest a realistic alternative.

[danjama]

The government needs to slim the fk down and stop wasting money. Simple.

And stop giving billions away to other feckin countries!

[Mobile Chicane]

danjama said:

The government needs to slim the fk down and stop wasting money. Simple.

And stop giving billions away to other feckin countries!

Agreed.

India has a space programme, and economic growth which at 6.5% (or thereabouts) far outstrips ours.

Why in the name of buggery fk is the UK giving countries such as this aid when we have issues of our own enough to resolve.

[hidetheelephants]

If the OP or anyone else has a spiffing idea how to bin the deficit and kickstart the economy;

Hipsters can tweet their ideas to Gideon here or scribble on his facebook wall.

Normal folk can email him here.

[Andy Zarse]

Chote wants to wind his neck in and look a bit closer to home. The OBR's economic predictions have been utterly woeful. Almost as bad as those from the other idiots at the Bank of England.

Edited by Andy Zarse on Friday 8th March 23:11

[Randy Winkman]

Mobile Chicane said:

Why in the name of buggery fk is the UK giving countries such as this aid when we have issues of our own enough to resolve.

It's the PR budget isn't it?

[Art0ir]

MarshPhantom said:

Everybody knows that, on any level, the Tories economic plan isn't working.

Denied twice by Cameron in yesterday's speech, the Boss of the OBR has put the PM in his place.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/mar/08/obr...

And the alternative?

[Andy Zarse]

Art0ir said:

And the alternative?

Print print print.

Oh and spend spend spend...

[Art0ir]

Andy Zarse said:

Art0ir said:

And the alternative?

Print print print.

Oh and spend spend spend...

You see I thought that, but looking at the posting history he doesn't seem particularly leftist at all. In fact he seems quite fond of one Mr Farage. He'll be sorely disappointed if he gets elected anyway.

[jules_s]

Johnnytheboy said:

Presumably, the Balls-esque Plan B that involves another decade of public sector pay rises to stimulate "the economy"?

Like the last 10 years then...5 years of sub inflation payrises and 5 years of none at all?

So what exactly wrong with some QE that get's put directly into the economy not the banks coffers?

Why not build some schools? half of them are built in 1960 and falling down. I know of one school that has a proposed maintenance budget of £20m over the next 10 years (wont be spent obviously - it'll just fall down around their ears) whereas a new one would be £25m and last 40 years. Option #1 here just delays the spending - why not bring it forward to help the economy now?

Same old story for me in public spending. Labour spend far too much, then the blue side come in and spend fk all. labour get back in and have to spend even more to plug all the gaps left by woeful underspending (I'm talking schools here)