Millibrain as PM. The end of the UK?

[McWigglebum4th]

According to internet experts if I don't vote tory then Millidrain and balls will get into downing street

According to these experts this will mean that within 12 months the UK will vanish completely never to be seen again.


I don't think he will make much difference to just now as he's just useless not a super villian who lives in a volcano


So what do you think will happen once Red Ed is in Number 10

[McWigglebum4th]

I suppose the problem is what do you define as far worse?

I imagine for the city boys it might be something like not being able to afford the 21"inch wheel package on their latest s-line

[Elroy Blue]

It's reached a point where it doesn't make a blind bit of difference. Non of them have the interests of the British population at heart. They're there to serve themselves and nobody else.

Edited by Elroy Blue on Thursday 14th March 09:12

[simoid]

Elroy Blue said:

It's reached a point where it doesn't make a blind bit of difference. Non of them have the interests if the British population at heart. They're serve themselves and nobody else.

Why not go back to bed and get out of the sane side?

[anonymous-user]

I am very grateful to the Tories and the Lib Dems, for the following reasons.

I have for several years felt that there was no party I could vote for. My natural inclinations are to support a centre left position, but I was utterly disenchanted with the last Labour Government, especially in its final term.

The Tories, by an accumulation of factors including the NHS reforms, the Plan A press on regardless approach, the bedroom tax, and the attack on human rights, have helped me to be sure that I could not vote for them. The Lib Dems might have attracted my vote, but now that they have supported secret courts, I cannot vote for them. The Greens are nutjobs, UKIP are nutjobs, and no one else matters. Therefore, with a heavy heart, I will almost certainly vote Labour in 2015. I think that Milliband is a bit of a knob, and I might actually prefer Cameron as Prime Minister, but I can't support his policies or his party.

So, there it is, at least for me. Thanks, Tories and Lib Dems, for helping me to choose.

Other opinions are available.

[Dixie68]

I think the current government has convinced me that the Liberal Party are a bunch of idiots who have managed to hamstring the Tories to the point where nothing worthwhile is achieved. I'll never vote for a Labour Party that has the Boy M and Balls in it, (despite having previously voted Labour before the last GE) and I won't vote UKIP in a GE because they are a one-trick pony.
That leaves the Tories, but as they've shown no backbone at all I don't want another few years of 'more of the same'.
I give up. After 25 years of voting I finally realise that whoever is in power isn't worth the effort of me walking the few hundred yards to the local polling station.

[CAPP0]

Breadvan72 said:

I'll vote for something bad but least-offensive

What a terrible indictment of the choices we have.

Trust I've summarised appropriately

[Guybrush]

It's not difficult to look at Labour's track record on the economy and thus see its longer-term effect on living standards. Why would Labour change the habit of a lifetime? Why would they suddenly be the answer? Of course things will get worse, it's going to take years to fix the mess left by Labour, and the lib dem drag factor just makes it take longer to achieve.

[Gaspode]

Breadvan72 said:

I am very grateful to the Tories and the Lib Dems, for the following reasons.

I have for several years felt that there was no party I could vote for. My natural inclinations are to support a centre left position, but I was utterly disenchanted with the last Labour Government, especially in its final term.

The Tories, by an accumulation of factors including the NHS reforms, the Plan A press on regardless approach, the bedroom tax, and the attack on human rights, have helped me to be sure that I could not vote for them. The Lib Dems might have attracted my vote, but now that they have supported secret courts, I cannot vote for them. The Greens are nutjobs, UKIP are nutjobs, and no one else matters. Therefore, with a heavy heart, I will almost certainly vote Labour in 2015. I think that Milliband is a bit of a knob, and I might actually prefer Cameron as Prime Minister, but I can't support his policies or his party.

So, there it is, at least for me. Thanks, Tories and Lib Dems, for helping me to choose.

Other opinions are available.

I'm a bit behind you on the curve, as it were. I started out as a strong labour supporter 35 years ago, became increasingly disenchanted with them, culminating in the complete fk-up of the last term, and have become increasingly centre-right. At the moment, I'm still going to vote Tory (assuming Theresa May doesn't get to be in charge) but with a deal of reluctance. But I agree, Greens, UKIP and LibDems are all complete no-hopers as they cannot put together a package of policies with sufficiently broad appeal to get the votes they need.

[Elroy Blue]

simoid said:

Elroy Blue said:

It's reached a point where it doesn't make a blind bit of difference. Non of them have the interests if the British population at heart. They're serve themselves and nobody else.

Why not go back to bed and get out of the sane side?

Sorry. I take it back. They're all fine.

Labour, Torys and Lib Dem have all shown over the last decade how their only interest is the UK.

Just remind me again how many Ministers of either party have fingers in pies connected to Government policy.

[jdw1234]

Why would anyone who isn't reliant on the state want to vote Labour?

[anonymous-user]

McWigglebum4th said:

I suppose the problem is what do you define as far worse?

Greece?

[simoid]

Elroy Blue said:

simoid said:

Elroy Blue said:

It's reached a point where it doesn't make a blind bit of difference. Non of them have the interests if the British population at heart. They're serve themselves and nobody else.

Why not go back to bed and get out of the sane side?

Sorry. I take it back. They're all fine.

Labour, Torys and Lib Dem have all shown over the last decade how their only interest is the UK.

Just remind me again how many Ministers of either party have fingers in pies connected to Government policy.

I disagree that all politicians serve themselves and noone else, that's all.

The politicians' best interests are often intrinsically linked with those of the voters, too.

I'd try to cheer up a bit if I were you

[longblackcoat]

Breadvan72 said:

I am very grateful to the Tories and the Lib Dems, for the following reasons.

I have for several years felt that there was no party I could vote for. My natural inclinations are to support a centre left position, but I was utterly disenchanted with the last Labour Government, especially in its final term.

The Tories, by an accumulation of factors including the NHS reforms, the Plan A press on regardless approach, the bedroom tax, and the attack on human rights, have helped me to be sure that I could not vote for them. The Lib Dems might have attracted my vote, but now that they have supported secret courts, I cannot vote for them. The Greens are nutjobs, UKIP are nutjobs, and no one else matters. Therefore, with a heavy heart, I will almost certainly vote Labour in 2015. I think that Milliband is a bit of a knob, and I might actually prefer Cameron as Prime Minister, but I can't support his policies or his party.

So, there it is, at least for me. Thanks, Tories and Lib Dems, for helping me to choose.

Other opinions are available.

A very similar thought process for me.

[Essel]

Elroy Blue said:

It's reached a point where it doesn't make a blind bit of difference. Non of them have the interests if the British population at heart. They're serve themselves and nobody else.

A view I increasingly agree with, though it gives me no joy. I remember conviction politicians, even if I disagreed with them.

[anonymous-user]

jdw1234 said:

Why would anyone who isn't reliant on the state want to vote Labour?

I am a substantial net contributor to the state, and do not buy the idea that Labour is simply about handouts and subsidies. Some of the worst mistakes made by Blair and Brown were associated with their spinelessness towards the City and their dazzled infatuation with business in general. The public sector has been infested by daft ideas culled from half baked private sector management courses. I spent two years working on the Mid Staffs hospital inquiry, and that was an amazing education on how to cock up a public resource by applying what are essentially centre right ideas to its organisation, ethos and operation.

Labour are currently, I think, the least bad of a very bad bunch indeed. This does not mean that they are not rubbish, but we are choosing here between bad and worse. I entirely accept that many will legitimately think that Tory rubbish is better than Labour rubbish, and they may be right. I am merely expressing my own assessment of the big piles of ste on offer.

[Elroy Blue]

simoid said:

I'd try to cheer up a bit if I were you

It's a bit difficult when your profession is being decimated (and thereby affecting your ability to assist the public) on the basis 'there's no money left' while at the same time £14 billlion a year gets sounked on overseas 'aid' and more on bloody windmills. Then you find a large number of senior Politicians are heavily involved in the green industry and firms that benefit from the very 'aid' they give out.

Essel said:

A view I increasingly agree with, though it gives me no joy. I remember conviction politicians, even if I disagreed with them.

When I was a young chap in the Forces, I used to intensely dislike the likes of Tony Benn and his left wing, CND loving views. I look back now and while I still disagree with his politics, he does indeed seem to be a man who served without thought of personal gain.

[McWigglebum4th]

jdw1234 said:

Why would anyone who isn't reliant on the state want to vote Labour?

Labour voter said:

Because if you don't vote labour the tories will get in and that would destroy the UK

Is it just me or does that argument seem familar for some reason?

[Elroy Blue]

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[ClaphamGT3]

To EB's point about Tony Benn; it was easy for him to be a conviction politician, being as he was (and is) a multi millionaire scion of the Wedgewood-Benn dynasty.

I think that we need to recognise that the Tories, for all their faults, are being broadly consistent in their handling of the big issue - the economy.

I suspect that CMD is almost hoping he can goad the wretched Kretchner (sp?) Woman into doing something daft in the next few months.