Pork with your brutally slaughtered sausages?

Pork with your brutally slaughtered sausages?

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Happy82

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171 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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Pork DNA in halal sausages at Westminster primary school

Westminster Council carried out tests on school meals after the horsemeat scandal

Pork DNA has been found in halal chicken sausages served in a primary school in Westminster, central London, the local authority said.

The sausages were from St Mary's Bryanston Square, a Church of England school, Westminster Council confirmed.

Tests on a sample from Burdett Coutts School revealed the presence of lamb and pork DNA in lean minced beef.

The items have been removed from all school meals and the contractor was asked not to use its meat supplier.

Council officers took seven samples in total from three schools in the last week of February to carry out tests on meat products served in schools following the horsemeat scandal.

Under Islamic law, Muslims are strictly forbidden to eat pork.

Halal sausages are served in 15 primary schools, two nurseries, one special school and one pupil referral unit, which take only halal meat.

More than 4,400 pupils choose sausages as a meal option, the council said.

The council said it decided to carry out tests for the presence of DNA from beef, lamb, pork, chicken, turkey, goat and horse after the horsemeat scandal.

No horse DNA was found in the tests.

'Shocking' results
The Food Standards Agency (FSA) was alerted by the council on Monday.

Andrew Christie, Westminster City Council's director of children's services, said: "We are very concerned by the discovery that a contractor has fallen short of the high standards we demand.

"We also understand and regret the upset that may have been caused to parents and children alike.


Andrew Christie, Director of Children's Services for Westminster, says suppliers gave assurances over the integrity of their meat
"We are contacting schools, parents and faith group leaders and are offering to meet them to discuss their concerns.

"We have asked our contractor Chartwells to no longer use the meat supplier involved.

"The discovery of pork in these sausages came about because of extra tests Westminster City Council decided to carry out.

"The results were all the more shocking given the assurances about the food we receive from our suppliers. I can assure parents we will keep testing our school meals."

Chartwells said the product was supplied by butchers Nigel Fredericks which had taken "full responsibility" for the breach in the supply chain.

Nigel Fredericks said the product was sourced from Brook Farm Sausages.

Managing director of Nigel Fredericks, Nigel Tottman, said: "We can only think that this was an isolated incident involving some element of human error."

A Defra spokesman said: "It is totally unacceptable if food labelled as halal has been found to contain pork.

"Today Defra, the FSA and the Department for Communities and Local Government met with organisations involved in halal and kosher food to discuss labelling and certification.



"It is totally unacceptable if food labelled as halal has been found to contain pork"

Defra spokesman
"Food manufacturers and suppliers have a responsibility to make sure that the food they serve is what they say it is. The FSA is working with Westminster City Council to establish what happened."

Dr Shuja Shafi, deputy secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, said while the FSA had been swift in acting on the horse meat issue, it had been "lamentably slow in acting on halal meat regulation".

He added: "At a time of acute consumer anxiety, we would expect the government to be as robust in engaging with the public as it did during the horsemeat scandal."

In a separate incident, supermarket Aldi said the FSA had alerted it to the presence of horse meat in its Oakhurst Frozen Meatloaf.

A spokesman said: "The product is not part of our main range of everyday products and was stocked on a limited availability basis. However, we have immediately withdrawn any of the remaining stock from our stores."


Whoops hehe

Mr_B

10,480 posts

245 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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Not all halal is true or strict halal slaughtered, most is pre stunned like regular meat. Finding out which is, who uses it and how much etc etc , is a much harder task.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

264 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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Hmm, is the compy ball starting to roll for our minority citizens.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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Mojocvh said:
Hmm, is the compy ball starting to roll for our minority citizens.
Not unless they can prove damage, the poor dears.

tubbystu

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262 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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Happy82 said:
The sausages were from St Mary's Bryanston Square, a Church of England school, Westminster Council confirmed.
confused Why is a C of E school serving halal meat anyway ?

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Friday 15th March 2013
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tubbystu said:
confused Why is a C of E school serving halal meat anyway ?
To improve their canteen income / profitability.

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

184 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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tubbystu said:
confused Why is a C of E school serving halal meat anyway ?
Apparently it's cheaper.


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Friday 15th March 2013
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Victor McDade said:
Apparently it's cheaper.
Some of my Christian friends tell me it's tastier as well.

That might be because they're comparing supermarket meat to halal butcher meat though.

Mojooo

12,834 posts

182 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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the report is useless without saying what % was found

it could be a tiny amount triggered by the food being made in the same factory or something not being cleaned properly.

regardless - a producer has a duty to ensure its products are described.

aw51 121565

4,771 posts

235 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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Change 'school' for 'prison' and this is a repost wink .

MadMullah

5,265 posts

195 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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it is quite alot cheaper - alot of the multi-national restaurants etc actually serve halal meat its just that they're not labelling it - it upsets people that they're being told they're eating halal food. as long as they're not told they're not bothered.

also depends on the percentage of muslims at that school.

from the sounds it - this was a clean up that didnt go aswell as it should've.


Colonial

13,553 posts

207 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Replace halal for kosher and Muslim for Jew and the responses would be different.

Hoofy

76,690 posts

284 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Victor McDade said:
tubbystu said:
confused Why is a C of E school serving halal meat anyway ?
Apparently it's cheaper.
So they get more expensive meat and the school pays a lower price? Profit!

7mike

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195 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Mojocvh said:
Hmm, is the compy ball starting to roll for our minority citizens.
That started rolling at the very beggining of the whole horsemeat thing. This lot couldn't get on the local news quick enough to spout off and demand the rest of the country should bow down in most hummble apologies having shown such disrespect to their religious feelings (with a view to sticking in a claim of course).

http://www.lancashiremosques.com/

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Saturday 16th March 2013
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7mike said:
Mojocvh said:
Hmm, is the compy ball starting to roll for our minority citizens.
That started rolling at the very beggining of the whole horsemeat thing.
The horsemeat issue originally affected non-halal products (Value Burgers, Lasagne etc.) I'm not sure why Muslims would have been lodging compensation claims. Any links you could point me to?

7mike said:
This lot couldn't get on the local news quick enough to spout off and demand the rest of the country should bow down in most hummble apologies having shown such disrespect to their religious feelings
The link you posted doesn't make any mention of "bowing down", "apologising", or "disrespect". Are you just making stuff up?

7mike said:
(with a view to sticking in a claim of course).
Of course. rolleyes

turbobloke

104,670 posts

262 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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There are some people on the compo trail, their identities are varied.

An international view.
http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/topics/food-safety/hors...

A domestic legal view.
http://money.aol.co.uk/2013/02/11/can-you-sue-supe...

TwigtheWonderkid

43,824 posts

152 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Happy82 said:
Under Islamic law, Muslims are strictly forbidden to eat pork.
I thought they were strictly forbidden to KNOWINGLY eat pork. Therefore, there isn't a problem, unless fanatical crackpots want to make a fuss.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

211 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
fanatical crackpots want to make a fuss.
yes This

attention wes seek attention shocker.

turbobloke

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262 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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anonymous said:
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And you're not posting on PistonHeads so that's OK.

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Are you local? wink