Pedestrians mown down by van Leicester not terrorist

[saaby93]

How come if pedestrians are mown down by a van in Leicester it's not a terrorist incident?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-leicesters...

beeb said:

Van driver Lugman Aslam, 26, of Warren View, Leicester, was jailed for five years after pleading guilty to dangerous driving and attempting to commit grievous bodily harm with intent.

Lucky no-one was killed
The same offence under terrorism laws would attract ......?

[baldy1926]

Rather like the nursery nurse stabbed by the 2 Muslim women shouting Allah is great

[bitchstewie]

saaby93 said:

Lucky no-one was killed
The same offence under terrorism laws would attract ......?

Same reason as if a non-muslim does something because they're a violent knob it isn't automatically terrorism I guess?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/muslim-driver...

Puts a bit more context around it.

[mac96]

Well, he had a previous altercation with the guys he knocked down, and his motivation appears to have been personal. In which case it is by definition not terrorism.

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In case anyone is interested the definition as used by Pool Re (UK government sponsored terrorism reinsurer) is:

an Act of Terrorism (Terrorism) means:-

Acts of persons acting on behalf of, or in connection with, any organisation which carries out activities directed towards the overthrowing or influencing, by force or violence, of Her Majesty’s government in the United Kingdom or any other government de jure or de facto


Other definitions are around, obviously.

Edited by mac96 on Thursday 15th June 20:38

[Hainey]

Hainey said:

Just because he had a Muslim sounding name doesn't mean its terrorism. Please lets not us start down THAT road.

Not everyone wirh an Irish name who was involved in violent crime in the 70's and 80's was an IRA operator either.

Bad people are just bad people.

[saaby93]

mac96 said:

Well, he had a previous altercation with the guys he knocked down, and his motivation appears to have been personal. In which case it is by definition not terrorism.

There was something about a religious festival?

[mac96]

saaby93 said:

mac96 said:

Well, he had a previous altercation with the guys he knocked down, and his motivation appears to have been personal. In which case it is by definition not terrorism.

There was something about a religious festival?

So? Allegedly they racially/religiously abused him, and he looked for revenge. Sounds personal to me. Not saying it was justified, even if his victims may not have been particularly nice guys.

Still not looking like terrorism to me. If someone calls me a fat bd in the street at Easter, and I run them down in a car, does that make me a terrorist? And I guarantee the newspaper headline would not be: "Christian driver mounted pavement and ploughed into ..."'

[Robertj21a]

saaby93 said:

Lucky no-one was killed
The same offence under terrorism laws would attract ......?

Not sure why you would think he was a terrorist ?

[John145]

Robertj21a said:

saaby93 said:

Lucky no-one was killed
The same offence under terrorism laws would attract ......?

Not sure why you would think he was a terrorist ?

In the past 3 months in London there were 2 incidents where Muslims used vehicles to run down people. Unfortunately the media outlets highlight the fact they were Muslim.

So, when another incident reaches the news of a person with a Muslim sounding name running down people in a van, people make the mental leap to link the 2 in some way; terrorism.

This is the problem with judging based on headlines. Unfortunately we don't all have the where with all or time to be able to objectively understand the circumstances and see through the media prejudices.

[Slyjoe]

It was probably those big Afro's that triggered him.

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

How come if pedestrians are mown down by a van in Leicester it's not a terrorist incident?

Because the purpose wasn't designed to influence the government or to intimidate the public or a section of the public, and wasn't intended to advance a political, religious or ideological cause.