Brexit: would you change your vote.
Discussion
I voted leave and I still believe that we would be better out of the EU.
However, recent events have left me with no confidence that our self-serving, myopic politicians could get a positive deal.
So if there was another referendum (don’t think that there will be) I would reluctantly change my vote.
What would you do?
However, recent events have left me with no confidence that our self-serving, myopic politicians could get a positive deal.
So if there was another referendum (don’t think that there will be) I would reluctantly change my vote.
What would you do?
It was 55/45 toward remain in my mind.
My life would not be improved in any meaningful way by leaving.
Platitudes like "taking back control " are meaningless nonsense.
I have sympathy with several aspects of Brexit ( freedom to hire people from all over the world more fairly than at present, for example ) but right now this is not enough to win my vote.
After witnessing the quality of our politicians at work ( on all sides ) there is not a chance in hell I would trust them to deliver economic prosperity in a Brexit UK. So my personal weighting has gone up to 85/15 in favour of remain.
My life would not be improved in any meaningful way by leaving.
Platitudes like "taking back control " are meaningless nonsense.
I have sympathy with several aspects of Brexit ( freedom to hire people from all over the world more fairly than at present, for example ) but right now this is not enough to win my vote.
After witnessing the quality of our politicians at work ( on all sides ) there is not a chance in hell I would trust them to deliver economic prosperity in a Brexit UK. So my personal weighting has gone up to 85/15 in favour of remain.
The last time this was asked on here only 8% (of 1084 members polled) said they'd change their vote.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I imagine the figure is a bit higher now - even people like Arron Banks, Iain Dale etc say that remaining is better that what May is proposing.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I imagine the figure is a bit higher now - even people like Arron Banks, Iain Dale etc say that remaining is better that what May is proposing.
toppstuff said:
It was 55/45 toward remain in my mind.
My life would not be improved in any meaningful way by leaving.
Platitudes like "taking back control " are meaningless nonsense.
I have sympathy with several aspects of Brexit ( freedom to hire people from all over the world more fairly than at present, for example ) but right now this is not enough to win my vote.
After witnessing the quality of our politicians at work ( on all sides ) there is not a chance in hell I would trust them to deliver economic prosperity in a Brexit UK. So my personal weighting has gone up to 85/15 in favour of remain.
Good post, exactly my thoughts too.My life would not be improved in any meaningful way by leaving.
Platitudes like "taking back control " are meaningless nonsense.
I have sympathy with several aspects of Brexit ( freedom to hire people from all over the world more fairly than at present, for example ) but right now this is not enough to win my vote.
After witnessing the quality of our politicians at work ( on all sides ) there is not a chance in hell I would trust them to deliver economic prosperity in a Brexit UK. So my personal weighting has gone up to 85/15 in favour of remain.
Uk should remain in the EU. If territories/regions/counties of the UK want to leave the EU perhaps they should devolve fully from the UK first.
Nope
Remain —-> Remain
All the way though I’ve weighed toward remain because although I can see some potential advantages i knew that our politicians would never be able to negotiate a good deal = better off where we are until such time:
A) the economics of leaving change
B) the governments ability to negotiate a decent deal strengthens/EU weakens
Until then we really need the unskilled labour and access to markets the bloc provides, would however recommend withholding any contributions until such time a clean audit is achieved and accounts are signed off and we actually use our veto when we should over more ominous aspects of legislation/project involvement.
Remain —-> Remain
All the way though I’ve weighed toward remain because although I can see some potential advantages i knew that our politicians would never be able to negotiate a good deal = better off where we are until such time:
A) the economics of leaving change
B) the governments ability to negotiate a decent deal strengthens/EU weakens
Until then we really need the unskilled labour and access to markets the bloc provides, would however recommend withholding any contributions until such time a clean audit is achieved and accounts are signed off and we actually use our veto when we should over more ominous aspects of legislation/project involvement.
Was a remain. Am a remain.
The previous vote had little to do with the EU. It was a general fk you to everyone and everything. If there is to be another vote it'll be an even bigger fk you and have even less to do with the actual issue in question.
The ballot paper should just have a single 'fk you' and a box to tick.
The previous vote had little to do with the EU. It was a general fk you to everyone and everything. If there is to be another vote it'll be an even bigger fk you and have even less to do with the actual issue in question.
The ballot paper should just have a single 'fk you' and a box to tick.
I voted leave - but I'd vote remain now.
I don't like being in the communist dictatorship that is the European Union, but it's pretty clear now that anyone who leaves will be punished.
We just aren't big enough to go it alone with such a powerful neighbour willing to throw us under the bus at any opportunity.
I don't like being in the communist dictatorship that is the European Union, but it's pretty clear now that anyone who leaves will be punished.
We just aren't big enough to go it alone with such a powerful neighbour willing to throw us under the bus at any opportunity.
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
I voted leave - but I'd vote remain now.
I don't like being in the communist dictatorship that is the European Union, but it's pretty clear now that anyone who leaves will be punished.
We just aren't big enough to go it alone with such a powerful neighbour willing to throw us under the bus at any opportunity.
Not big enough to go it alone? Madness.....I don't like being in the communist dictatorship that is the European Union, but it's pretty clear now that anyone who leaves will be punished.
We just aren't big enough to go it alone with such a powerful neighbour willing to throw us under the bus at any opportunity.
BlackLabel said:
The last time this was asked on here only 8% (of 1084 members polled) said they'd change their vote.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I imagine the figure is a bit higher now - even people like Arron Banks, Iain Dale etc say that remaining is better that what May is proposing.
Quite a difference between "Remaining is better than Remain minus minus" and "Remaining is better than Leaving" https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I imagine the figure is a bit higher now - even people like Arron Banks, Iain Dale etc say that remaining is better that what May is proposing.
toppstuff said:
After witnessing the quality of our politicians at work ( on all sides ) there is not a chance in hell I would trust them to deliver economic prosperity in a Brexit UK. So my personal weighting has gone up to 85/15 in favour of remain.
I dunno, by the same token, greater attention has been paid to the antics of the politicians in Brussels and we can now be more sure than ever of how hopeless that lot are as well. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff