Foxconn suicides - and how big is that factory.....
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Back in 2007 they 'only' had 270,000 employees - link to a satellite photo below.
http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/14014
It is effing massive though Tonker if you look at the pics.
http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/14014
It is effing massive though Tonker if you look at the pics.
Edited by CobolMan on Thursday 27th May 20:35
Edited by CobolMan on Thursday 27th May 20:36
fbrs said:
anonymous said:
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so they're on track for 26... errr so soul destroying job in factory better than back breaking job in paddy field?- As a country becomes wealthier and more developed, it inevetably becomes harder to keep wages down - for the workforce to reconcile themselves to work more and settle for less than they come to know is the norm elsewhere.
- This is, in part, what happens when you manipulate a country and currency for purely economic means.
- fk 'em. Really.
Olf said:
It's nowhere near the rate of suicides in the 300,000 UK farmer population - if we're going to get all Californian and worried the worry should start at home.
Quite.Aside from yokels topping themselves, the UK now - perhaps for the first time in centuries - has more to worry about at home than abroad. Let's get that st straight first; hence my point number 3.
It sounds harsh, but there it is.
One big earthquake there and we'd get a global impact on electronics. Remember the Kobe earthquake in Japan in the 90's? Caused a huge rise in computer memory prices, and huge economic impact...
I also read an article that said 400,000 employees. Whats the suicide rate from cities with similar population?
wiki said:
The earthquake caused approximately ten trillion yen or $102.5 billion in damage, 2.5% of Japan's GDP at the time. It is listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the "costliest natural disaster to befall any one country." Most of the losses were uninsured, as only 3% of property in the Kobe area was covered by earthquake insurance, compared to 16% in Tokyo.
Kobe was one of the world's busiest ports prior to the earthquake, but despite the repair and rebuilding, it has never regained its former status as Japan's principal shipping port.
The sheer size of the earthquake caused a major decline in Japanese stock markets, with the Nikkei 225 index plunging by a thousand points in one day following the quake. This financial damage was the immediate cause for the collapse of Barings Bank due to the actions of Nick Leeson, who had speculated vast amounts of money on Japanese and Singaporean derivatives. Discussions of Japan's "Lost Decade" tend towards purely economic analysis and neglect the impact of the earthquake on the Japanese economy which at the time was already suffering from recession.
Does that province suffer from Earthquakes? Kobe was one of the world's busiest ports prior to the earthquake, but despite the repair and rebuilding, it has never regained its former status as Japan's principal shipping port.
The sheer size of the earthquake caused a major decline in Japanese stock markets, with the Nikkei 225 index plunging by a thousand points in one day following the quake. This financial damage was the immediate cause for the collapse of Barings Bank due to the actions of Nick Leeson, who had speculated vast amounts of money on Japanese and Singaporean derivatives. Discussions of Japan's "Lost Decade" tend towards purely economic analysis and neglect the impact of the earthquake on the Japanese economy which at the time was already suffering from recession.
I also read an article that said 400,000 employees. Whats the suicide rate from cities with similar population?
Digga said:
Olf said:
It's nowhere near the rate of suicides in the 300,000 UK farmer population - if we're going to get all Californian and worried the worry should start at home.
Quite.Aside from yokels topping themselves, the UK now - perhaps for the first time in centuries - has more to worry about at home than abroad. Let's get that st straight first; hence my point number 3.
It sounds harsh, but there it is.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/china-business/...
telegraph said:
“Because Foxconn has had a large number of big orders, the workers are reduced to repeating exactly the same hand movement for months on end.
The workers we have spoken to say that their hands continue to twitch at night, or that when they are walking down the street they cannot help but mimic the motion. They are never able to relax their minds,” he said.
...
Overtime last year was an average of 120 hours per month per worker, bring their weekly hours up to 70 hours, above the maximum level set by Apple in its guidelines to suppliers. In the wake of the suicides, the company has now reduced the time to 80 hours per month, and is now considering raising its basic wage of 900 yuan (£90) a month by between 50pc and 100pc.
I think the latter part there shows a more realistic level for unemployment benefit for the UK !!The workers we have spoken to say that their hands continue to twitch at night, or that when they are walking down the street they cannot help but mimic the motion. They are never able to relax their minds,” he said.
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Overtime last year was an average of 120 hours per month per worker, bring their weekly hours up to 70 hours, above the maximum level set by Apple in its guidelines to suppliers. In the wake of the suicides, the company has now reduced the time to 80 hours per month, and is now considering raising its basic wage of 900 yuan (£90) a month by between 50pc and 100pc.
Now, if you'll excuse me I'm going to write a letter to the local MP suggesting Hull be fenced off and turned into the worlds biggest TV factory !
Don said:
Plotloss said:
32p an hour based on a 70 hour week.
You can see why it's the world centre of manufacturing.
Slavery gets st done.
Remember that exchange rates utterly distort the real value of their pay. Yes it's bad. But it's not 32p bad. 32p buys a lot more there than it does here...You can see why it's the world centre of manufacturing.
Slavery gets st done.
- With possible suicidal tendencies, the value of your slave may go up as well as down. Terms and conditions apply.
Edited by Olf on Friday 28th May 09:52
Don said:
Plotloss said:
32p an hour based on a 70 hour week.
You can see why it's the world centre of manufacturing.
Slavery gets st done.
Remember that exchange rates utterly distort the real value of their pay. Yes it's bad. But it's not 32p bad. 32p buys a lot more there than it does here...You can see why it's the world centre of manufacturing.
Slavery gets st done.
On that "Look how your luxurious stuff is produced" program that finished last week, they were in one of these factories.
Apparently, everytime there's a fk-up they play deliberately irritating music to the whole factory, as a disincentive.
The hysteria surrounding this though is laughable when you compare the death rate against mining in South America and Africa.
Apparently, everytime there's a fk-up they play deliberately irritating music to the whole factory, as a disincentive.
The hysteria surrounding this though is laughable when you compare the death rate against mining in South America and Africa.
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