Mortgage margins over swap rates

Mortgage margins over swap rates

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briSk

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14,291 posts

228 months

Friday 20th August 2010
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In t'paper they have been going on about the size of the margin over swap rates for fixed rate mortgages.

personally i'd worked on the basis of that representing their expectation of rate rises. is this correct?

personally i am paying what equates to a 200bps margin on my 10 yr fix. i don;t think this is wildly out of kilter given expectations etc.

is this just another media having a go at banks situation?

fido

16,878 posts

257 months

Friday 20th August 2010
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In the good times, lenders borrowed short (LIBOR 3m, 6m) and lent out long .. so i guess they are doing the opposite and borrowing longer than the maturity at which they are lending out, which naturally has a premium attached.

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

244 months

Friday 20th August 2010
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briSk said:
In t'paper they have been going on about the size of the margin over swap rates for fixed rate mortgages.

personally i'd worked on the basis of that representing their expectation of rate rises. is this correct?

personally i am paying what equates to a 200bps margin on my 10 yr fix. i don;t think this is wildly out of kilter given expectations etc.

is this just another media having a go at banks situation?
I'm surprised that the Torygraph bothered to publish this nosh. Over the last decade we have the biggest bubble of all time, and banks weren't pricing risk correctly, both in the fact that different LTVs had the same rate, and that they were pricing very close to the funding they were getting (ignoring maturity mismatch (NRK)). We are now back in the real world, where rates for people with a good deposit are very good (IMO). Can't see the problem.