M1 Bridge Damage

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Marty Funkhouser

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5,427 posts

182 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Love the way that the Mail is reporting a casual piece of speculation in the headline...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1378308/Sp...

Amazing to think how much this is going to cost the insurers presumably, I pity anyone who needs the M1 to commute over the next few weeks/months...

speedchick

5,184 posts

223 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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They just said on the BBC headlines that it 'may have been started deliberately'

Jackleman

974 posts

167 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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It will be interesting to see what the government infrastructure review reveals, as I suspect there are many types of business that occupy premises in such locations!

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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it was Gordon Brown wot done it yes

john_p

7,073 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Surely no different to all those "railway arch" businesses, most of which are light industrial, workshops etc .. do we close all those too?

DonkeyApple

55,729 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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I think the key is just what some people are storing on this very cheap commercial land.

Anyone who knows that stretch knows that for nearly 7 years until recently by Mill Hill on the earstern side there was the most enormous scrap pallet pile building up, along with car tyres. Exactly the sort of thing that actually would have burnt for weeks if it had been torched. It was genuinely enormous.

Obviously, this has since been moved and is now stored at the bottom of the M1 where the A406 slip road joins from the west, so absolutely no problem there. biggrin

Puggit

48,526 posts

249 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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DonkeyApple said:
Obviously, this has since been moved and is now stored at the bottom of the M1 where the A406 slip road joins from the west, so absolutely no problem there. biggrin
The bit the IRA blew up - the flyover was closed for months then!

DonkeyApple

55,729 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Puggit said:
The bit the IRA blew up - the flyover was closed for months then!
Part of it has never re-opened I think?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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A5 flyover is fully open

Marty Funkhouser

Original Poster:

5,427 posts

182 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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DonkeyApple said:
I think the key is just what some people are storing on this very cheap commercial land.

Anyone who knows that stretch knows that for nearly 7 years until recently by Mill Hill on the earstern side there was the most enormous scrap pallet pile building up, along with car tyres. Exactly the sort of thing that actually would have burnt for weeks if it had been torched. It was genuinely enormous.

Obviously, this has since been moved and is now stored at the bottom of the M1 where the A406 slip road joins from the west, so absolutely no problem there. biggrin
Yes, that pile of wood must have been 50 feet from base to tip? IIRC though it was adjacent as opposed to underneath the motorway....even so, it would have done some fearful damage.

Would love to know what the costs involved are with this current situation.

DonkeyApple

55,729 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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There's that bit by the A5 which has never re opened. A completely new section was built.

I might be going mad but there is definitely a bit of ghost road by that junction.

Off to google earth. Will be back with a link or will have opened a bottle and put this imaginary bit of road to the back of my mind. smile

DonkeyApple

55,729 posts

170 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Have opened a bottle. biggrin

The bit I was thinking of is apparently up at Scratchwood and I've been bluntly told that anyone with a bus pass will remember using it.

stuttgartmetal

8,108 posts

217 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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a scrap yard with insurance?
yeah, of course

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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speedchick said:
They just said on the BBC headlines that it 'may have been started deliberately'
Greenpeace or BRAKE?...BRAKE or Greenpeace?...Greenpeace or BRAKE?...BRAKE or Greenpeace?...Greenpeace or BRAKE?...BRAKE or Greenpeace?...

That's a toughie...hehe

hornet

6,333 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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inkiboo said:
The bit you are thinking of is probably here:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&a...

The junction that comes off the M1 and under the A41.
Original start/finish point of the M1 I believe?

Dave_L

30 posts

230 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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DonkeyApple said:
I might be going mad but there is definitely a bit of ghost road by that junction.
My old recollection of the bottom of the M1 (which you may be referring to) was that you came off onto the slip road but the M1 proper continued on and rose up as if to flyover the whole junction, but just stopped dead in mid-air. My understanding then, was that the original plan to extend the M1 further on was scrapped (possibly in the 60's).

I believe when they redesigned that whole junction in recent years, that short stub was connected up to take Westbound North Circular traffic on to the northbound M1 (the bit that now cuts across the middle of the big roundabout), so it's no longer visible as such.

Or maybe I'm going mad as well ...

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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inkiboo said:
No, that is fairly spot on. The M1 was going to finish at Marble Arch originally and the Westway/Old M41 was due to be part of an inner M25.
Not unlike the M40 of which there's still a fair chunk missing at the London end even though there have been substantial improvements in the missing link over the years.

People took one look at the M4/Westway and said "that's enough of that"!

Dogwatch

6,240 posts

223 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Similar story for the M23 which fades into slip roads to/from the A23 while the original motorway line just stops at the end of an embankment.

stuttgartmetal

8,108 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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How on earth would they have got the M1 to Marble Arch?
Cut a swathe through Kilburn and the Edgware road?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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stuttgartmetal said:
How on earth would they have got the M1 to Marble Arch?
Cut a swathe through Kilburn and the Edgware road?
it's called regeneration, it wouldn't have been missed