Bob Vylan

[anonymoususer]

It's been mentioned elsewhere but this is just about these 2 chaps.

Looks like they may have really messed up with their USA Visa's being pulled. A side effect of their appearance at Glastonbury
Meanwhile Tim Davie, Director-General of the BBC is in real trouble and I think he will be gone /on his way out by end of the week

[bad company]

Hopefully Tim Davie will soon be gone and Bob Vylan will be in jail where he belongs.

[bitchstewie]

LBC are reporting Davie was at Glastonbury.

[DickyC]

bad company said:

Hopefully Tim Davie will soon be gone and Bob Vylan will be in jail where he belongs.

Presumably fearing prosecution, they're both Bob Vylan. It's naive. I was on a jury where three sisters were caught shoplifting and opted to go to court with the defence that there was confusion about which sister was which.

"I had red hair at the time, she has red hair now."
"It was all of you."

Joint enterprise.

[anonymoususer]

bhstewie said:

LBC are reporting Davie was at Glastonbury.

Yes. I saw that myself.
Not him there but the story of him being there.

[Vanden Saab]

anonymoususer said:

bhstewie said:

LBC are reporting Davie was at Glastonbury.

Yes. I saw that myself.
Not him there but the story of him being there.

Telegraph reporting that he personally made the decision not to pull the live feed.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/30/ofcom-...

[eharding]

If nothing else, these Vylan chaps should be placed in the stocks and pelted with ordure for the wilful mangling of the voiceless dental fricative in 'Death' with a labiodental fricative to arrive at 'Def', in order to achieve some cheap rhythmic echo with "IDF".

Bring back BBC received pronunciation, and make these rapping types talk properly, damn it.

That being said, I'm given to understand that "Def" is a term of approval amongst the hip-hop fraternity, but I'm not sure the beak is going to swallow that when these herberts are hauled up in court.

[davek_964]

I love the fact that the BBC have apologised for broadcasting it - but on their news page have a 'Here's everything you need to know about Bob Vylan' story......

[darreni]

Both this mob and Kneecap have studied well. Say something outrageous and you can generate more free publicity that your talent alone would ordinarily buy.

Malcom McLaren must be pissing himself laughing from beyond the grave.

Edited by darreni on Monday 30th June 22:55

[rodericb]

It's not such a terrible thing that this "death to the IDF" and the lyrics of their other songs was aired as it shows what some parts of the community believe and presumably are pursuing, supporting, funding or whatever.

[cml24]

rodericb said:

It's not such a terrible thing that this "death to the IDF" and the lyrics of their other songs was aired as it shows what some parts of the community believe and presumably are pursuing, supporting, funding or whatever.

I'd agree, I don't have a big issue with it being aired.

I am a little confused about the names. Did the main chap rename himself after the group, which he'd already named after the other guy? Have I understood that correctly?

[bad company]

rodericb said:

It's not such a terrible thing that this "death to the IDF" and the lyrics of their other songs was aired as it shows what some parts of the community believe and presumably are pursuing, supporting, funding or whatever.

Meanwhile Lucy Connolly remains in jail for some hurty words in a tweet which she subsequently deleted.

Two tier justice? I think so.

[Randy Winkman]

cml24 said:

rodericb said:

It's not such a terrible thing that this "death to the IDF" and the lyrics of their other songs was aired as it shows what some parts of the community believe and presumably are pursuing, supporting, funding or whatever.

I'd agree, I don't have a big issue with it being aired.

I am a little confused about the names. Did the main chap rename himself after the group, which he'd already named after the other guy? Have I understood that correctly?

I think it was a really dumb and irresponsible thing to chant but on the issue of it being aired, modern smart phones and social media mean we can all get to see all of this sort of stuff anyway. So I'm not sure that the BBC showing it was that big a deal. On balance, possibly less of a big deal that censoring it. At least Donald Trump cant slag the UK off for lack of free speech .

[Drumroll]

bad company said:

Meanwhile Lucy Connolly remains in jail for some hurty words in a tweet which she subsequently deleted.

Two tier justice? I think so.

Of course you believe that, because that is what you want to believe. The truth is very few cases are the same so it is very difficult to do comparisons.

[dundarach]

Randy Winkman said:

cml24 said:

rodericb said:

It's not such a terrible thing that this "death to the IDF" and the lyrics of their other songs was aired as it shows what some parts of the community believe and presumably are pursuing, supporting, funding or whatever.

I'd agree, I don't have a big issue with it being aired.

I am a little confused about the names. Did the main chap rename himself after the group, which he'd already named after the other guy? Have I understood that correctly?

I think it was a really dumb and irresponsible thing to chant but on the issue of it being aired, modern smart phones and social media mean we can all get to see all of this sort of stuff anyway. So I'm not sure that the BBC showing it was that big a deal. On balance, possibly less of a big deal that censoring it. At least Donald Trump cant slag the UK off for lack of free speech .

The BBC isn't free, it doesn't get to have or promote 'free speech', all it gets to promote is bland, none offensive, none political content aimed right down the middle.

[bad company]

Drumroll said:

bad company said:

Meanwhile Lucy Connolly remains in jail for some hurty words in a tweet which she subsequently deleted.

Two tier justice? I think so.

Of course you believe that, because that is what you want to believe. The truth is very few cases are the same so it is very difficult to do comparisons.

I believe that Lucy Connolly has been very harshly treated, yes. Most people seem to agree.

[PurplePenguin]

Drumroll said:

bad company said:

Meanwhile Lucy Connolly remains in jail for some hurty words in a tweet which she subsequently deleted.

Two tier justice? I think so.

Of course you believe that, because that is what you want to believe. The truth is very few cases are the same so it is very difficult to do comparisons.

And you can believe what you want to believe.

It’s not difficult to compare cases and see similarities

[sugerbear]

bad company said:

rodericb said:

It's not such a terrible thing that this "death to the IDF" and the lyrics of their other songs was aired as it shows what some parts of the community believe and presumably are pursuing, supporting, funding or whatever.

Meanwhile Lucy Connolly remains in jail for some hurty words in a tweet which she subsequently deleted.

Two tier justice? I think so.

Lol. Yeah, dont forget that what he said was "freedom of speech". So if LC is "innocent" then so is he.

Which one is it?

[sugerbear]

I am struggling to see the outrage here, The IDF are notorious for killing civilians, lying about the killing of civilians and then when evidence is produced they have killed civilians doing their best to throw a bit of mud around suggesting they were terrorists.

Maybe he should just have changed his change to "f*ck the IDF" because that would have been fine.

If you pop over to the Russia/Ukraine thread I am sure you could pick up some choice comments about the destruction of the Russian army.

Barbara Streisand effect in full effect on this one.

[272BHP]

bad company said:

I believe that Lucy Connolly has been very harshly treated, yes. Most people seem to agree.

Indeed.

A shout at the clouds tweet in the anger of the moment and then a retraction - it barely made a ripple till she was arrested.
vs
Actual incitement to kill. With the knowledge it will be broadcast live to millions around the world.

Either let her out or jail 2 bob - there is no third option here.

Personally I am in favour of no jail for anyone for stupid words.