Why is Tony Blair so unpopular?
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-33849764
The article talks about his political influence pushing labour to the right alienating the lefties, public disapproval of his active support of Bush and the subsequent screwing up of Iraq, his post PM lifestyle of private jets and lots of wonga, but seems to overlook the biggest issue - he's a lying and will forever be remembered as one!
The article talks about his political influence pushing labour to the right alienating the lefties, public disapproval of his active support of Bush and the subsequent screwing up of Iraq, his post PM lifestyle of private jets and lots of wonga, but seems to overlook the biggest issue - he's a lying and will forever be remembered as one!
Because the lefty media in general and the BBC in particular bought everything he said hook, line and sinker from 1994 until around 2003 - and since then have been feeling ever-so-slightly like they were taken for fools.
See also under Bill Clinton and other fallen darlings of the near-left.
See also under Bill Clinton and other fallen darlings of the near-left.
Righties hate him because Labour, high state spending, and reminders of the oblivion he consigned the Tories to, Lefties hate him because he was a pragmatist, not an idealist. And the Iraq War.
I think a lot of it is that many people voted for him and would rather feel betrayed than accept the responsibility of saying they felt he was the best man for the job at the time. Making him out to be some master illusionist is a way of absolving responsibility- he won three majorities for Labour.
I think a lot of it is that many people voted for him and would rather feel betrayed than accept the responsibility of saying they felt he was the best man for the job at the time. Making him out to be some master illusionist is a way of absolving responsibility- he won three majorities for Labour.
ash73 said:
I'd love to know what was going through his head when he took us into Iraq. His biggest failing is he still believes he was right.
That still rankles for me. At the time I lived in France, so was surrounded with friends and colleagues suffering the whole "cheese eating surrender monkeys" treatment in the English speaking press. The diplomatic tensions during the build up to the invasion of Iraq were the subject of many wine soaked soirees of discussion, with me generally defending the British stance. Naively, in retrospect, I was convinced that an intelligent (for he is at least that!) man like Blair could not take such a weighty decision lightly, and had to be sitting on some prime intelligence info that justified committing British forces to the action. A bit of a deception then when it all turned out to be hot air, bull st and lies! What a lying .
YankeePorker said:
Naively, in retrospect, I was convinced that an intelligent (for he is at least that!) man like Blair could not take such a weighty decision lightly, and had to be sitting on some prime intelligence info that justified committing British forces to the action. A bit of a deception then when it all turned out to be hot air, bull st and lies! What a lying .
Y'know how PH wks itself senseless over anything military (see any thread about Vulcan, snipers or SAS for reference)? Politicians are the same, with the added ego boost of making life and death decisions which they think gives them gravitas and a place in history. I imagine that Blair was literally seeing himself as 'the father of the new Iraq', with freedom and puppies for all. glazbagun said:
Righties hate him because Labour, high state spending, and reminders of the oblivion he consigned the Tories to, Lefties hate him because he was a pragmatist, not an idealist. And the Iraq War.
I think a lot of it is that many people voted for him and would rather feel betrayed than accept the responsibility of saying they felt he was the best man for the job at the time. Making him out to be some master illusionist is a way of absolving responsibility- he won three majorities for Labour.
A fair summaryI think a lot of it is that many people voted for him and would rather feel betrayed than accept the responsibility of saying they felt he was the best man for the job at the time. Making him out to be some master illusionist is a way of absolving responsibility- he won three majorities for Labour.
sooperscoop said:
Y'know how PH wks itself senseless over anything military (see any thread about Vulcan, snipers or SAS for reference)? Politicians are the same, with the added ego boost of making life and death decisions which they think gives them gravitas and a place in history.
I don't believe this to be generally true, at all.Type R Tom said:
glazbagun said:
I think a lot of it is that many people voted for him and would rather feel betrayed than accept the responsibility of saying they felt he was the best man for the job at the time.
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