Now they really have gone to far.

Now they really have gone to far.

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Gary11

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Tuesday 15th May 2012
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As we have always known us motorists pay for everthing in the UK via VED,VAT,fuel duty toll charges blah blah.
It is an unbeliveable headline that due to falls in pump spend the goverment may have to raise duty on fuel by 50%!!
So like diesel it will be MORE expensive to do less miles,so they want us to drive electric noddy cars or 3 cylinder hairdryers but still expect to get the tax spend so will adjust the price accordingly,so what does that mean for the majority with normal cars or the petrol heads with something juicyer?
I find storys like this so draining it actualy is highway robbery!
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"Motorists could face a 50% rise in fuel duty in future years to cover a £13bn hole in Treasury coffers, according to a report.

The gap in public finances will come from increasing use of more fuel-efficient cars and a switch to electric vehicles, the RAC Foundation-commissioned report said."


Gary11

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Tuesday 15th May 2012
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964Cup said:
Maths fail.

Fuel duty will be £0.6097 per litre from August.

If your car presently does 40mpg, you pay £0.0692 per mile in duty.

If fuel duty increases by 50% to £0.9146 per litre, and by that time your new car does 60mpg, you will pay - wait for it - £0.0692 per mile in duty.

In other words, it is a consequence of improvements in average fuel economy, and is an incentive for people to buy more fuel-efficient cars. Which is the general idea.

It does mean that old fun cars will cost more to run, but then my last old fun car cost me something like £20 per mile *before* I paid for any fuel, so an extra 51p probably wouldn't have stopped me. Yes, it did 8mpg, depreciated like the proverbial rock kicked off a cliff (I did sell it at the worst possible time) and cost a fortune to maintain - I'm still trying to buy it back at the moment. Any further questions?
Its not a maths fail your theroy only works if we sell our fking pride and joy and buy Nissan micras or smart cars.Quality reply must be a politician.


Gary11

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Wednesday 16th May 2012
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louiebaby said:
The government has been very hard on emissions. VED is linked to emissions. Company car regulations are linked to emissions. Parking permits in my area are too.

Manufacturers responded by making cars more efficient, (mainly in the tests, in the real world, not so much.)

Users / drivers have responded by driving less, and in more efficient manner. Oddly, the amount of fuel used has a strong relationship with the amount of emissions.

The government has got exactly what it wanted and set out to do, and only now realise the knock on effect this has? Wow.
Well its the ethos of ANY Goverment basing tax grab on,stealth taxation,speed cameras,drinkers,smokers etc, now every one doesnt smoke or drink very much (hence this new minimum unit tax I mean price) or drive other than by hairdryer powered "ecars" or smart cars their economics have all gone horrribly wrong, added to the reccession causing buisness to earn no profit or pay much tax and partly due to 20% vat its not rocket science I wonder what they will do??

Edited by Gary11 on Wednesday 16th May 11:32


Edited by Gary11 on Wednesday 16th May 11:33

Gary11

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Wednesday 16th May 2012
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martin84 said:
I've said for ages they're chasing revenue downwards now. The higher they put the price - the less revenue they make because they price people out of it. Eventually we'll have just one motorist left driving round the economically smashed desolate wasteland paying £7,000 a litre.
As the Japanese found out in the great depression of the 30s..we should know better.

Gary11

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Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Pothole said:
You should know better, too. 'They' haven't actually gone anywhere, have they? How dare a government look for ways to get us out of the st? How fking DARE they?
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