First Stuxnet, now Flame

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Fascinating stuff

http://www.securelist.com/en/blog/208193522/The_Fl...

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12gauge said:

Jimbeaux said:

That would be the Tsunami.....but close.

Well, the quake/Tsunami were induced by HAARP. The MOSSAD colluded to make Fukushima's systems shut down making a nuclear disaster inevitable.

Why - to render a significant portion of the northern hemisphere irradiated to the point of no longer supporting significant human population for the next 1000 years or so. Expect similar disasters over the coming years until the commands of the georgia gemstones are achieved.
http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm



The david icke forums can be most enlightening for this kind of stuff.

Take your tinfoil nonsense and get, go on, scat!

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eldar said:

hairykrishna said:

Possibly Israeli/Mossad but nobody really knows.

Mossad? Possibly, but no proof of origin. Could be some pimply yoof in Skelmersdale having a laugh after all

Various sources quote Israel’s vice prime minister as saying: "For anyone who sees the Iranian threat as significant, it is reasonable that he would take different steps, including these, in order to hobble it.”

Minister Moshe Yaalon added: "Israel is blessed with being a country which is technologically rich, and these tools open up all sorts of possibilities for us."

Total possibility that it's just big talk given the current situation, but who knows.

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Looks like someone is trying to cover their tracks

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18365844

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McHaggis said:

hairykrishna said:

It's the virus that could have (did?) buggered up centrifuges used for uranium enrichment in Iran. Possibly Israeli/Mossad but nobody really knows. Nothing to do with Fukishima...

On the contrary. Many people will know. They just aren't taking about it. But the scale of stuxnet and flame need nation state backing.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/06/flame-cryp...

"The Flame espionage malware that infected computers in Iran achieved mathematic breakthroughs that could only have been accomplished by world-class cryptographers, two of the world's foremost cryptography experts said."

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elster said:

Marf said:

Looks like someone is trying to cover their tracks

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18365844

I thought it had already been admitted to be a joint effort between US & Israeli called Olympic Games. Then lost it.

http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/06/01/stuxnet...

Depends how you look at it, the author of the book that report is based on has apparently confirmed that they are state manufactured viruses after interviewing people involved, but the people involved have not directly confirmed to the media it was indeed them.

Personally I'm of the opinion that they are the product of western/israeli intelligence agencies and that we are going to see more and more of this kind of thing popping up. Though you'd think that the last thing they'd want is for their projects to spread outside their original scope and get caught in the open as it were. But then I guess so long as the intended targets keep providing anti-virus companies with things to investigate these viruses will keep popping up in the media.

I wonder how the anti-virus companies really view this type of stuff, i.e. are they ever worried that there'll be repercussions to investigating and even providing remedies and security against this kind of state sponsored malware?

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Was he involved in cyber security?

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Cryptography was his area according to Wikispooks.

I guess anything's possible, but without any pointers I think it's a bit if a stretch to suggest he had knowledge of these viruses and that was the reason he was offed.

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Funk said:

Didn't Kym Dotcom start out as a hacker..?

Yep.....?

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eldar said:

Its certainly possible that smart non-state people, like anonymous, have the expertise to write the code.

But follow the money. Stuxnet had two (or possibly 3) zero day exploits. Those zero day exploits have a value of between 500k and 1,500k dollars to the right buyers

How do ZDEs have a value and who sells them?

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"Flame and Stuxnet makers 'co-operated' on code"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18393985