13000 Deaths - Keogh
Discussion
http://news.sky.com/story/1115436/up-to-13000-need...
So much money being spent on the NHS, and then we hear more stories like this.
People should be put in prison for this.
So much money being spent on the NHS, and then we hear more stories like this.
People should be put in prison for this.
aw51 121565 said:
And misunderstanding of 'the numbers' and how they are actually extracted from the data - but this is at least one step further ahead of the so-called 'issue' under discussion 
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As an example, Bolton Hospital recently had an issue around unexpectedly high death rates under certain circumstances; it transpired that the "cause of death" was being 'coded'* wrongly and the computer 'report(s)' were drawing down data which had been - at least partly - wrongly 'coded'* therefore the data was unknowingly defective. There was no problem at all (not in this particular strand, anyway, but of course figures elsewhere will be affected).
* 'coded': a particular incident or illness, for example, will have a specific 'code' on the computer system in use (in a GP Practice, for example, the 'code' for receipt of a request for medical records for one of our patients from a Solicitor [in connection with an injury claim following an RTA] might be 9er6. If we want to find out how many requests for such medical reports we received in a particular period we would search for the particular 'code' 9er6 and specify the start and end dates).
There will be particular 'codes' for causes of death in a hospital as well as how soon after admission the death occured - these 'codes' are specific and use of the wrong 'codes' for particular incidents can totally muck up the figures. This is what happened in Bolton Hospital early this year
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So potentially it's a case of "garbage in, garbage out", every time
, including this "news" in the papers today 
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Basildon Hospital has an absolutely woeful reputation and has done for years. Patients beg GP's not to be sent there. .As an example, Bolton Hospital recently had an issue around unexpectedly high death rates under certain circumstances; it transpired that the "cause of death" was being 'coded'* wrongly and the computer 'report(s)' were drawing down data which had been - at least partly - wrongly 'coded'* therefore the data was unknowingly defective. There was no problem at all (not in this particular strand, anyway, but of course figures elsewhere will be affected).
* 'coded': a particular incident or illness, for example, will have a specific 'code' on the computer system in use (in a GP Practice, for example, the 'code' for receipt of a request for medical records for one of our patients from a Solicitor [in connection with an injury claim following an RTA] might be 9er6. If we want to find out how many requests for such medical reports we received in a particular period we would search for the particular 'code' 9er6 and specify the start and end dates).
There will be particular 'codes' for causes of death in a hospital as well as how soon after admission the death occured - these 'codes' are specific and use of the wrong 'codes' for particular incidents can totally muck up the figures. This is what happened in Bolton Hospital early this year
.So potentially it's a case of "garbage in, garbage out", every time
, including this "news" in the papers today !Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff