Brexit, great news!
Discussion
As touched on elsewhere it seems that Prime Minister May has already been excluded from several EU meetings (In which as some have pointed out, she should have been included, as technically the UK is still a member state), with the latest, being a ban on her attending the EU end of year meeting and dinner.
This is good news, because it shows that as far as the EU is concerned, the UK is already no longer a member of the EU `club'
This is good news, because it shows that as far as the EU is concerned, the UK is already no longer a member of the EU `club'
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Who can blame them. If I were them, I wouldn't want us there either.
We should be on the equivalent of gardening leave....we officially haven't gone yet but don't bother turning up in the meantime because we're well rid of you.
I don't blame them at all, after all, they are only doing what Theresa May has been criticized for doing, namely playing her leaving the EU cards close to her chest.We should be on the equivalent of gardening leave....we officially haven't gone yet but don't bother turning up in the meantime because we're well rid of you.
But the underlying joy of this, is that as far as the EU is concerned, the UK is already NOT a member of the EU!
superlightr said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Who can blame them. If I were them, I wouldn't want us there either.
We should be on the equivalent of gardening leave....we officially haven't gone yet but don't bother turning up in the meantime because we're well rid of you.
its like giving your notice at work - sure the UK will go on gardening leave but we get the benefits of our contract until the end of the notice. No worries.We should be on the equivalent of gardening leave....we officially haven't gone yet but don't bother turning up in the meantime because we're well rid of you.
If tho the employer starts cutting your pay or benefits of your contract ie you cant now use the gym membership in the last month then you would have a right to challenge that as its breaking your contract or they reduce your bonus etc.
So you think the EU is well rid of the UK? think its the other way around and called democracy.
El stovey said:
0a said:
The big question is what's next for the EU?
They just lost their globally most influential country by far, and will now need to redistribute the UK's net contributions. This will be very painful indeed.
Won't they actually be better much off when the UK has to pay EU subscriptions for all the stuff they had before? They just lost their globally most influential country by far, and will now need to redistribute the UK's net contributions. This will be very painful indeed.
Edited by Pan Pan Pan on Friday 2nd December 14:29
Mrr T said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
As touched on elsewhere it seems that Prime Minister May has already been excluded from several EU meetings (In which as some have pointed out, she should have been included, as technically the UK is still a member state), with the latest, being a ban on her attending the EU end of year meeting and dinner.
This is good news, because it shows that as far as the EU is concerned, the UK is already no longer a member of the EU `club'
Non story posted by team leave who still cannot be bothered to do any research.This is good news, because it shows that as far as the EU is concerned, the UK is already no longer a member of the EU `club'
There are formal EU Council of Europe meeting. The UK has not and cannot be excluded from these while the UK is a member of the EU.
There are then meetings of EU country leaders and normally Tusk and Junker. These meeting have no formal rights within the EU. Who is invited or not invited is up to the host nation and those attending. Not unnaturally May is no longer invited to these meeting. I assume she would prefer it that way. Something about kitchens and parties comes to mind.
You can try to conflate this or any EU meeting as just kitchens and parties, but at least the EU recognizes the result of the UK referendum even if the bed wetting un democratic whining remainers do not.
As far as the EU is concerned the UK is OUT of the club.
Only the Supreme court case issue now, and then it will be out of the door.
ATG said:
s2art said:
0a said:
The big question is what's next for the EU?
They just lost their globally most influential country by far, and will now need to redistribute the UK's net contributions. This will be very painful indeed.
Not sure if the UK net 10-11 billion contrib would be that problematic. Germany alone could take up the slack. (not that they would want to). The big loss, as you say, is our soft power, hard power, intelligence capability and global influenced.They just lost their globally most influential country by far, and will now need to redistribute the UK's net contributions. This will be very painful indeed.
Those EU members favouring free markets, decentralisation and an outward-looking stance have lost a major ally. I expect that camp will still hold sway fairly easily, falling back on their vetos as a last resort, but it is still damaging.
In terms of global influence, Germany has huge soft power. It's relationship with Russia is particularly important. And France is a major and active global player, particularly in the Middle East and Africa ... plus its seat on the UN Security Council, arsenal of nukes.
The UK departure's most significant impact from a global perspective will be increasing the distance between the USA and the EU, weakening the Anglo-American position and creating a more multi-polar world. Whether that is for the better or worse, I'm not sure. In the short-run, the potential lunacy of a Trump administration will be more important anyway.
///ajd said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
As touched on elsewhere it seems that Prime Minister May has already been excluded from several EU meetings (In which as some have pointed out, she should have been included, as technically the UK is still a member state), with the latest, being a ban on her attending the EU end of year meeting and dinner.
This is good news, because it shows that as far as the EU is concerned, the UK is already no longer a member of the EU `club'
So the diminishing of UK influence with our closest neighbours and largest trading bloc is good news?This is good news, because it shows that as far as the EU is concerned, the UK is already no longer a member of the EU `club'
And you wonder about those labels......
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