London ULEZ expansion is going ahead
Discussion
Our wonderful Mayor has confirmed the expansion to cover the majority of London will go ahead August 2023.
Get your wallets out
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-63754...
Get your wallets out
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-63754...
snuffy said:
s1962a said:
He got voted in with this mandate didn't he? Democracy and all that.
Indeed. He does what he says he's going to do.If people don't like it, then stop voting for him.
There was a public consultation sham. The thing is it is the poor and those on low incomes that will suffer the most, people who likely voted him in.
Koyaanisqatsi said:
megaphone said:
snuffy said:
s1962a said:
He got voted in with this mandate didn't he? Democracy and all that.
Indeed. He does what he says he's going to do.If people don't like it, then stop voting for him.
There was a public consultation sham. The thing is it is the poor and those on low incomes that will suffer the most, people who likely voted him in.
There will be lots of examples like this.
Cotty said:
Looks like I will be putting my 1992 BMW up for sale early next year. Im in Greater London, zone 6 and never drive into central London.
The problem is people just outside of the new zone are not going to drive into the zone to use the shops etc that are in the zone.
At the end of the day its just a cash grab, it has nothing to do with air quality. If it was then he could just prevent the so called polluting cars entering the current zone. Paying £12.50 does not make the car pollute less.
Yes lots of owners with 'classic' cars and toys will be caught, my mate has a 2002 XJR, he will have to sell or pay the fee for the twice a month he uses it. The problem is people just outside of the new zone are not going to drive into the zone to use the shops etc that are in the zone.
At the end of the day its just a cash grab, it has nothing to do with air quality. If it was then he could just prevent the so called polluting cars entering the current zone. Paying £12.50 does not make the car pollute less.
s1962a said:
megaphone said:
Yes lots of owners with 'classic' cars and toys will be caught, my mate has a 2002 XJR, he will have to sell or pay the fee for the twice a month he uses it.
Is it a petrol? I checked and looks like a 2001 XJR is ulez exempt, so your mate won't have to pay it. Lucky sod!Edited by megaphone on Friday 25th November 13:28
TCX said:
megaphone said:
Cotty said:
Looks like I will be putting my 1992 BMW up for sale early next year. Im in Greater London, zone 6 and never drive into central London.
The problem is people just outside of the new zone are not going to drive into the zone to use the shops etc that are in the zone.
At the end of the day its just a cash grab, it has nothing to do with air quality. If it was then he could just prevent the so called polluting cars entering the current zone. Paying £12.50 does not make the car pollute less.
Yes lots of owners with 'classic' cars and toys will be caught, my mate has a 2002 XJR, he will have to sell or pay the fee for the twice a month he uses it. The problem is people just outside of the new zone are not going to drive into the zone to use the shops etc that are in the zone.
At the end of the day its just a cash grab, it has nothing to do with air quality. If it was then he could just prevent the so called polluting cars entering the current zone. Paying £12.50 does not make the car pollute less.
vixen1700 said:
megaphone said:
Yes lots of owners with 'classic' cars and toys will be caught, my mate has a 2002 XJR, he will have to sell or pay the fee for the twice a month he uses it.
My 1969 Volvo Amazon is exempt and I drive it in the ULEZ zone where I live most days. If I go West into London I always take public transport.My five litre TVR doesn't get much use though these days, to be fair.
Edited by vixen1700 on Friday 25th November 14:04
Edited by megaphone on Friday 25th November 14:20
Plymo said:
Cotty said:
z4RRSchris said:
it’s a great step for air quality, and discouraging drivers from taking short journeys. we need more measures now, more cycle lanes, LTNs, parking more expensive, expand CC, road pricing etc.
It has nothing to do with air quality, its about money. Once this has been running for a few years they will go after the compliant cars to keep the revenue flowing.No way will they have spent millions on a system, only for the revenue to decrease year-on-year, as it will (even if no one was bothered about the cost, natural wastage would reduce the number of chargeable cars every year).
They are bound to shift the goalposts at some point, and it will be cheap for them to do so as well.
The wealthy will just pay up or buy shinny new electric cars, they will continue to drive as public transport is beneath them.
Those with company cars, or company vans, will just continue to drive 'as it's free', companies will pass on the costs to customers, eventually consumers will pay, the poor will be affected the most.
Tradesman with older vehicles will just charge their customers more, the consumer will pay.
Those on low wages that need to drive will have to pay up, or give up.
Like the congestion charge, it is a tax on the poor.
z4RRSchris said:
NomduJour said:
z4RRSchris said:
i would ban ICE private cars from central london if i was Khan.
To what end?Private EV
EV Taxis / Vans / Private Hire
Buses
No reason to drive a car round town, walk or get the tube.
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