Jesus may have visited UK

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Wasn't the UK formed in about 1800 or something?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20091125/tuk-jesus-may...

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I was really commenting on the apparent blatant misuse of the term 'United Kingdom' rather than any religious stuff. I remember getting a massive bking for writing 'UK' as part of a History essay (becasue I couldn't be bothered to find out which specific country someone tried to invade).

If it's true that the term didn't even exist before 1707, then I ask you what kind of education have these 'journalists' had?

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StevieBee said:

Can't access the link.

There is evidence to suggest that Jesus did visit Britain with his uncle as a boy. There's some link to Glastonbury IIRC.

Maybe he was a music lover?

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KANEIT said:

Bill said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

who was the pope that Jesus wrote to?

Indeed

St. Augustine wrote to the Pope when he heard that Jesus had visited this island.

Wrote to the Pope in 597AD that he'd heard of the "legend" that Jesus had visited England.

Isn't that equivalent to someone today writing of something that *apparently* happened in about 1400?

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FourWheelDrift said:

OnTheOverrun said:

FourWheelDrift said:

OnTheOverrun said:

I'm surprised this is suddenly news. I thought it was common knowledge/legend that Jesus travelled with Joseph of Arimathea, a wealthy sanhedrin and trader to Cornwall to buy tin. This was a fairly common Phoenician trade route at the time so it's not inconceivable, especially as we only know about 30 of Jesus' 33 years of life so he had plenty of time for a few trips.

Mythology is a word that doesn't mean true

Personally I have great trouble believing the any of the Bible, but believing a bloke called Jesus travelled on trade route that is well documented in history with a bloke who is well documented to have travelled that route, is quite easy to believe.

All of the stories about Joseph of Arimathea (if he ever existed, there is no proof) were written centuries after his death and he have been used as a useful link to hold together the fragile chains of religious legends, like the Holy Grail. He is not mentioned in any of the early writings about how Christianity was brought to the British Isles. It's only in the 9th Century that his name first appears in relation to Britian, in a series of stories about Mary Magdelene written by the Archbishop of Mainz.

If you're training to be a Church Minister or whatever - isn't this the kind of thing you study?

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FourWheelDrift said:

In the same way someone studying Wizards and Magic reads Harry Potter books

But surely you can't study the Bible for several years and still come to the conclusion it's all true?

I'm pretty sure I must be missing something with religion, and I wish I knew what it was. I'd love to be a Christian, and feel persecuted because I have apparently not been given the ability to be one. I will be extremely upset if I end up in hell (which knowing my luck I will).

My Great Great Grandad was a Methodist Minister, as is my Father in Law. Still, I truly don't understand it all. Stories like this just confuse me even more...then there's Richard Dawkins - who doesn't help matters.

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FourWheelDrift said:

dr_gn said:

But surely you can't study the Bible for several years and still come to the conclusion it's all true?

I don't know how anyone reading any part of the bible can believe any of it is true, let alone all of it.

So why is anyone a Christian? there must be WAY more to it than that?

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Langweilig said:

Union of the Crowns -Scotland & England 1603.United Kingdom 1802. Union between Scotland, England & Ireland (Wales is a principality).

Excellent. I was only 2 years out then.

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G_T said:

Digga said:

rs1952 said:

Now post some photos of the centre of Merthyr Tydfil

I spent my first four years of learning how to fight school in South Wales, so I know it's not all picture postcard, but where is?

North Wales.

Is it Crib Goch / Snowdon ?

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Halb said:

dr_gn said:

Langweilig said:

Union of the Crowns -Scotland & England 1603.United Kingdom 1802. Union between Scotland, England & Ireland (Wales is a principality).

Excellent. I was only 2 years out then.

What occurred in 1802? The act of Union was 1707.
Acts of Union 1707

Edited by Halb on Friday 27th November 14:13

From Wikipedia: "...the Kingdom of Ireland, already under English control by 1691, merged with the Kingdom of Great Britain to form the United Kingdom with the passing of the Act of Union 1800".

So maybe I wasn't even 2 years out?

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Digga said:

dr_gn said:

G_T said:

Digga said:

rs1952 said:

Now post some photos of the centre of Merthyr Tydfil

I spent my first four years of learning how to fight school in South Wales, so I know it's not all picture postcard, but where is?

North Wales.

Is it Crib Goch / Snowdon ?

Correct. Tough going with a full 70 litre pack and five stitches in the palm of your right hand, but that's another story.

The pic above is, I think, taken with the old A5 visible on the other side of lake (Llyn Ogewn?), towards Devil's Kitchen. Noth great views - not my pics.

The only time I ever thought a walk might end up with a helicopter ride and/or hospital, was Crib Goch. Took the wrong path and ended up climbing a couple of one-way scrambles which spat us out on an *incredibly* steep bit of scree. No way back so we had to risk traversing/climbing it. Never been that scared on a hill before or since!

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FourWheelDrift said:

Test of Time is not an accepted proof of the existence of biblical characters and events. All Rohl did was use Old Testament stories to identify possible historical characters, by shifting time lines by up to 400 years in some cases to match events up. Archaeologists and historians have rubbished it.

I place it alongside The Da Vinci Code in terms of accuracy.

What? The DaVinci Code's true: it must be because it had Tom Hanks in it.