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andy c

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Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Is it me being overly cautious thinking we are about to get a big shock with the rates? I am no expert but whilst on the verge of taking a big plunge,I am very concerned with what the rates will do.
If I took any notice of the doom mongers on www.debtbombshell.com , or www.housepricecrash.com or the various threads on here and elsewhere,I am pretty damned spooked!!!

This is what the experts say and forecast.

From This is money:

Swap markets reflect the City's bank rate expectations. They price in rates to be 1.25% by late summer 2011. Latest: Various forecasting bodies have made upbeat prediction for the economy in recent weeks - the NIESR (9 April) and the CEBR on 16 April. The markets began factoring in a slightly higher chance of rate rises but that soon evapourated with forecasts of rates in five years at a new 2010 low.

Opinion: Inflation is a concern, but there's good reasons why rates will remain lowI've listed some historic swap rate prices to show how the market moves as economic prospects shift. Broadly speaking, the chances of a rate rise have receded since the start of the year:


January 26 (weak economy figures)
• 1.67% in two years
• 3.05% in five years
Source: Bloomberg

January 28 (inflation warning)
• 1.78% in two years
• 3.16% in five years


February 10 (downbeat BoE inflation report)
• 1.59% in two years
• 3.01% in five years

February 17 (3.5% inflation announced)
• 0.94% in one year
• 1.58% in two years
• 3.01% in five years


March 5 (Day after rates were held)
• 0.89% in one year
• 1.68% in two years
• 2.99% in five years

March 11 (after inflation survey)
• 0.87% in one year
• 1.64% in two years
• 2.97% in five years

March 30 (UK economy better than expected)
• 1.05% in one year
• 1.59% in two years
• 2.88% in five years

April 13
• 1.06% in one year
• 1.61% in two years
• 2.94% in five years

April 16
• 1.03% in one year
• 1.55% in two years
• 2.88% in five years

April 20 (After surprise inflation rise)
• 1.05% in one year
• 1.59% in two years
• 2.92% in five years



Read more: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/interest-rates#ixzz0l...

andy c

Original Poster:

1,216 posts

195 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Mortgage,what else

andy c

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1,216 posts

195 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Jon C said:
3% is a big shock? Blimey, when I bought my first flat they were >14%
Only 3% would be a result! My rate was 16% in the 90s.I was 2 over base then.Its the double digit rates I am concerned with.

andy c

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Friday 23rd April 2010
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I have done a forecast spreadsheet on my predicament and I would start to struggle at rates around 10% with a fix at 2 over base/libor therefore 12% repayment.I would find it very hard at 14% rates paying at 16%, but not impossible if income streams remain.

Anyone think I am being too cautious?

andy c

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Friday 23rd April 2010
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I know .Problem is I am just not a risk taker.Years ago with interest rates at15% I had nothing and thus couldnt loose anything.Nows different.

Is 15% all it could go up to?I know there would be millions in the st if it did but look what happened in Japan.

Thats the question.You just never know whats in store.

andy c

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Friday 23rd April 2010
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Problem with fixing is that if rates stay below 3% I could halve the debt in 3 years.At 5% it would take longer.
Not sure they do fixed rates on commercial either.

figures from my head but you get my drift.