UN Workers 'Beheaded' In Afghan Koran Protest

[The real Apache]

Anyone else had enough of this st? why are our boys coming home in coffins? to protect these savages?!! these inbred neanderthal muslim retards went ape because of one blokes actions in a country a thousand times further than any of them have been on a camel, s

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Video-...

[The real Apache]

Religion of peace my arse, never, since the Crusades, has a religion been the cause of so much ignorance and blood shed.....maybe I'm a little pissed off with my fellow human after seeing on the news a 14 year old school girl stabbed in the head and neck outside her school and some ignorant mother killing her kid by making him drink bleach but I feel enough is enough. Violent people deserve all they get

[The real Apache]

Victor McDade said:

The real Apache said:

Anyone else had enough of this st? why are our boys coming home in coffins? to protect these savages?!! these inbred neanderthal muslim retards went ape because of one blokes actions in a country a thousand times further than any of them have been on a camel, s

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Video-...

No one is in Afghanistan to 'protect these savages'.

We're there to protect our (or America's) own national interest. Whether you believe this or not is another matter altogether. But the whole we're there to fight for the rights of average Afghans is complete bullst.

To be fair the reasons for us being there range from protecting our power supplies to maintaining a presence near Pakistan....so I tend to agree with you in the main

[The real Apache]

The clue is in the word DJ, history. Far be it for me to defend any religion but christianity has evolved, hell, they even have female Pastors but our muslim friends seem unable to.

[The real Apache]

andy_s said:

I don't think you can generalise like that really. It isn't a violent religion, it's the men behind it that are the violent ones, as I said above, the religion is a red herring.

We are more enlightened, so we should be more enlightened than to generalise in such an unsophisticated way. I listen to rednecks spouting this sort of stuff all the time, and just put it down to ignorance. We do understand better, so let's blame the real culprits which are those that subvert any social engineering construct (whether it be fascism, communism, radicalism, christianity, islam, etc) for their own ends.

That's the real problem, and always has been.

sorry, I'm all out of enlightenment

[The real Apache]

carmonk said:

DJC said:

carmonk said:

'University of Wales' degree, eh? In that case, please forgive me for my hubris in daring to challenge any of your statements, I have really learned my lesson now.

Thats Ok. I presumed you wouldnt know much about the National Library and its similar resources as the British Library (done some research in there aswell) which is why I gave you the rope

Like I said, its all in the research. Ill leave the thread to you and the other religious numty now...Toodles

Look, if you've been to a library as well as having a degree then you've beat me twice over. I'm not religious but I admit that right now I'm fighting the urge to pray to you.

thanks monk, that made my day and AndyS?... you speak much sense

[The real Apache]

rich1231 said:

Getting worse:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-1294485...

"The Taliban had nothing to do with this, it was a pure act of responsible Muslims," spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid told the Reuters news agency by phone from an undisclosed location.

"The foreigners brought the wrath of the Afghans on themselves by burning the Koran," he said.

Responsible? pure act? retards the lot of em

[The real Apache]

968 said:

The real Apache said:

Anyone else had enough of this st? why are our boys coming home in coffins? to protect these savages?!! these inbred neanderthal muslim retards went ape because of one blokes actions in a country a thousand times further than any of them have been on a camel, s

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Video-...

Savages.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-kill...

quite.....although the point eludes me

[The real Apache]

968 said:

The real Apache said:

quite.....although the point eludes me

Have you read it? Indeed can you read?

Are you a cretin?

[The real Apache]

968 said:

The real Apache said:

Are you a cretin?

I think you've demonstrated with your initial post and your failure to notice the irony of the above link, shows you must be pretty thick. Thanks for confirming that by posting the above comment, rather than commenting on the link posted.

Irony? I doubt it somehow, you've merely done what you always do whenever anyone dares to express their dismay or disgust at the way these backward religious idiots behave, throw up an irrelevant 'look, westerners can be savages too' post

[The real Apache]

968 said:

The real Apache said:

Are you a cretin?

I think you've demonstrated with your initial post and your failure to notice the irony of the above link, shows you must be pretty thick. Thanks for confirming that by posting the above comment, rather than commenting on the link posted.

dunno what you expect really when you insinuate I can't read

[The real Apache]

968 said:

The real Apache said:

Irony? I doubt it somehow, you've merely done what you always do whenever anyone dares to express their dismay or disgust at the way these backward religious idiots behave, throw up an irrelevant 'look, westerners can be savages too' post

Ah I see, you are actually quite thick then.

good answer, predictable but good

[The real Apache]

968 said:

Lost soul said:

The difference is these guys will be going to the big house for a long long time and so they should

The article suggests that this action was long overdue and was more of a scapegoating action rather than tackling a systemic problem. Whatever the outcome, the actions of these 'savages' are no different to the 'savages' who murdered the UN workers. Let's hope that the brilliant democratic judicial system set up by the Afghan govt and supported by us can bring the perpetrators to justice.

If you are capable of responding without sarcasm or insult I'd like to respond by saying there is a big difference. The Afghan savages are doing this because of a belief system, the americans are just savages

[The real Apache]

968 said:

Godzuki said:

You really think that the first post wasn't civil? It wasn't insulting every muslim, just the religitards who committed the act.

Yes, I think he was referring to all Afghans, which is confirmed judging by subsequent posts.

'He' certainly was not, even a thickie like me doesn't think everyone in Afghanistan is a religiously misguided prat

[The real Apache]

968 said:

Godzuki said:

You really think that the first post wasn't civil? It wasn't insulting every muslim, just the religitards who committed the act.

Yes, I think he was referring to all Afghans, which is confirmed judging by subsequent posts.

you must not have read my post where I supported andy s when he said "I can assure you that most are normal people, albeit with a different culture, like you and I" either.....

[The real Apache]

968 said:

The real Apache said:

'He' certainly was not, even a thickie like me doesn't think everyone in Afghanistan is a religiously misguided prat

At least stand by your convictions however misguided they are.

"Religion of peace my arse, never, since the Crusades, has a religion been the cause of so much ignorance and blood shed.....maybe I'm a little pissed off with my fellow human after seeing on the news a 14 year old school girl stabbed in the head and neck outside her school and some ignorant mother killing her kid by making him drink bleach but I feel enough is enough. Violent people deserve all they get"

The 'ignorant' mother was Sikh by the way. Not sure which 14 yr old girl you are referring to though.

Look 968, I have no beef with you and have supported your views over many years here.....you have, on occasion, reciprocated but you cannot say I have criticised every Afghani in my initial, heated, post. I have even agreed with a post that says as much if you care to check so please stop with it.
I do stand by my original post in condemning these violent bds who can kill because of a misguided belief,

[The real Apache]

968 said:

The real Apache said:

you must not have read my post where I supported andy s when he said "I can assure you that most are normal people, albeit with a different culture, like you and I" either.....

or maybe I misunderstood this comment.

real Apache said:

"The Taliban had nothing to do with this, it was a pure act of responsible Muslims," spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid told the Reuters news agency by phone from an undisclosed location.

"The foreigners brought the wrath of the Afghans on themselves by burning the Koran," he said.

Responsible? pure act? retards the lot of em

Yes, you did.....the lot of them refers to those who can kill because of a misguided belief

[The real Apache]

I'm off for a beer.....sorry if I have pissed you off 968, I'm just sick of the constant resort to violence for the most inane excuse in the name of a God

[The real Apache]

andy_s said:

Without wanting to get myself de-constructed, I think, as I've said all along and many others have, is that I don't see it as being just the religion that has caused such ferment. Anytime someone offers a reasonable point of view about the majority being normal folk, the argument seems to get whittled down so much that unless you're agreeing that it's just the religion to the exclusion of societal, economic, political, educational, historical, cultural, traditional, situational, motivational or other reasons then you're apparently 'wrong'.

To be honest, it's not been my experience amongst 'normal' muslim folk that their religion is solely the reason for violence. I can understand; if not sympathise, apologise nor condone, why certain sections of the 'group' feel the way they do about the west or actions that have been taken by western govts. of late. I can see how this is easily exploited, bearing in mind how fundamental the religion is to their lives, although I could as easily imagine the situation being the same if there were no religion. I've seen in practise how people have manipulated others using religion as the vehicle, but have used all the other aforementioned factors as the petrol.

Being so focussed on one element of the whole situation isn't seeing it as it is, in my opinion. But I've said this before and as ever, the moderate views seem to get shouted down and obfuscated by those with more focussed opinions; those opinions may be valid to a degree, but to exclude all else is, well, too simplistic a model. For me, at any rate.

What bothers me is how readily these people can become so violent. Now this latest example would appear to have happened some time after the event, how did the Afghanis find out? have they got internet or did they get whipped into a frenzy by Al Q or other similar faction with an agenda? none the less, thesem seemingly normal people got wound up enough to behead someone.........over something that had nothing to do with them

[The real Apache]

Sheeda Pistol said:

Beheading someone for coming from the same land as said pastor is pretty st!

Some of the victims were Ghurkas.
Burning a book is a far cry from beheading someone and I doubt a Marine would become a suicide bomber or kill indiscriminately but I get where you're coming from